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I've passed CrzyRndm's mod/TC along to the team. I don't know if we could implement it, though.

You're more than welcome to have access to the code changes :)

Ive kept fairly good notes on what got changed so I can detail each one individually if needed

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I just hope that the code (if used) gets integrated into ranked. I prefer all players have access to the same content. As many stated before, if I could progress playing 4 hours a day instead of 8, I would likely come back.

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I've passed CrzyRndm's mod/TC along to the team. I don't know if we could implement it, though.


Well in any case; thank you very much.

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Well in any case; thank you very much.


passing onto the team -> saying they do but they usually don't.

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I've passed CrzyRndm's mod/TC along to the team. I don't know if we could implement it, though.
If that stuff was implemented DD would be perfect, and I would definitely start playing again and finish the game, and start anew and do the whole thing again, and possibly again.

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passing onto the team -> saying they do but they usually don't.


I would only tell you that I would if I would. And I most certainly did pass it along. :^)

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Well lets hope it's accepted.

Bringing the RNG to more acceptable levels will keep players wanting to grind for the gear. Atm your honestly just better off buying pieces you need off people and that's just sad.

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Well lets hope it's accepted.

Bringing the RNG to more acceptable levels will keep players wanting to grind for the gear. Atm your honestly just better off buying pieces you need off people and that's just sad.


We can only dream, but sadly it would still require time and effort from the dev team to test and implement the changes, and if they had the time or willingness, I would assume they'd have done it themselves by now.

Not getting my hopes up, though it is fun to dream ;(

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why not have the community create a tc that contains all the original maps using the modified rng code

that way it starts to get tested

when it's all worked out the dev team should have an easier time at it since all the work has been done for them

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passing onto the team -> saying they do but they usually don't.


uhhhh.....no, I can vouch for Hitmon's word, an entirely different matter is that if/when/how the team will implement it.

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I would come back to the game for sure if these changes happen. Sounds great so far.

I would love to be able to finish the crystal dimension on NM HC and get some of those super skins once their speed is buffed.

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Seriously, i've spent almost 3000 hrs now on dundef (~ 1/3 of it hosting afk-shop). It is the coolest game I've ever played, but now after reading this whole thread I feel bad, really bad!

Overall I've found 3 Ultimate armor pieces and one was completely crap. About the same for supreme armor. So how many additional hours would I have to spend to get a freaking decent sup or ulti set?? I dont even wanna think about that!!

What really killed it for me lately is the insane amount of people running around with full ulti sets, of course with more than perfect stats. In the beginning I thought, okay maybe they spent more hours grinding the s**t out of it or they were just super-lucky fellas. But now I see that 99.9% of them is using f***ing hacked gear.

I had a really great time playing it, but obviously its time to look for a new game to spend my time on. Making progress on armor seems impossible without buying "modded" gear..

off to flood my pillow with tears, cause the greatest game ever made died for me today :(

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I had a really great time playing it, but obviously its time to look for a new game to spend my time on. Making progress on armor seems impossible without buying "modded" gear..

off to flood my pillow with tears, cause the greatest game ever made died for me today :(


I hear ya. After the last patch came out with really no fixes to anything, I basically quit. I haven't given away all of my stuff yet because I might come back here and there when I'm bored, or in case Trendy decides to fix the bug. But yeah, I've moved on. Haven't played for over a week now (or whenever the patch came out), and I use to play multiple times a day.

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why do you come up with ponies 9 months after they got nerfed?? xp


Idk it was just a random thought sea horses are too mainstream!!!!


-gow3isba

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yeah is just annoying see everyone with the same pet, they should give another choices, and yes about the loot i complete full aqua like 30 times and i got 5 sup 4 ult crap XD, i think trendy though we got plenty of time to waste on survival stuff that will give nothing XD

sorry about my english :p

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The biggest problem with this game as others have said is the average loot quality. I have no problem with the fact a 400^ ultimate steam steam saw or monk wrench takes a lot of runs to get. But at least the typical weapon you should get from doing a map like Sky City on NMHC should have around 200^ and decent hero stats. Not a piece of crap with 20^.

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Most games using RNG loot drop systems have lots of dops, if your going to introduce negative stats then there should be even more of it, it will be random enough for only a few good things to come of it (myths for example - lots of them but were not overrun with totally outstanding myths every run).

To make the loot RNG based, give it a rollover and neg stat chance plus then be rare to drop is barmy - unless you dont want ppl to have that gear, more so when that issue doesnt exactly start with Ultimates either.

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What's kind of strange is that it seems when I go back and do maps that I haven't done in a long time I get really good drops the first few runs. I did boss rush for the first time in ages today. In the first 3 runs, I got 2 pieces of trans armor, an ult 362^ classic and a 367^ ultimate dps plate chest. I also went back and did Aquanos survival again and was seeing like 15 - 20 pieces of trans armor per run.

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What's kind of strange is that it seems when I go back and do maps that I haven't done in a long time I get really good drops the first few runs. I did boss rush for the first time in ages today. In the first 3 runs, I got 2 pieces of trans armor, an ult 362^ classic and a 367^ ultimate dps plate chest. I also went back and did Aquanos survival again and was seeing like 15 - 20 pieces of trans armor per run.


Same, seems I'm not the only one :D

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What's kind of strange is that it seems when I go back and do maps that I haven't done in a long time I get really good drops the first few runs. I did boss rush for the first time in ages today. In the first 3 runs, I got 2 pieces of trans armor, an ult 362^ classic and a 367^ ultimate dps plate chest. I also went back and did Aquanos survival again and was seeing like 15 - 20 pieces of trans armor per run.


I've been seeing more trans armor drop than weapons, lately. Which is odd, because I'm not doing like, Summoner-only runs. I'll have a Barb or Huntress out in King's Game and see at worst 50:50 tranny armor:weapons.

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