DunDef Digest 8/1/12 Discussion Thread

you should have just released the core game to console.

'giv consoles DLC! is r totally unfair'
'DLC sucks shouldnt have givn us it'
>.>... you get the idea...

so they won't be including any new content (weapons, pets) in the new console DLC? maybe i am missing something but what exactly am i downloading then? one new level... with no new rewards or characters or features or prizes or game modes or incentive to play?

this is the last DLC for this game, the last chance to keep your playerbase interested for a few more months, and this is how it goes down? please tell me what is supposed to be appealing about this DLC... farming up a slightly more powerful earth-shaper than the 100s i have already?? NO ONE WANTS AN EARTHSHAPER WITH 200 UPGRADES!!!

trendy will need to radically redesign the way they make DLC. why would you even put yourself in the position of having to try to cram all the new content into a patch?! it should be part of the DLC.

waiting for months after every time i purchased a DLC for a patch that would make it playable was extremely frustrating. after the utter and total failure that is the aquanos DLC all my friends quit playing but i have been checking the forums once a week waiting for the good news about a upcoming patch and new exciting DLC... only to hear this news . you should have just released the core game to console. the DownLoadable Content has NO CONTENT! my friends and i were happy playing until you started stealing money (YEAH, YOU READ THAT RIGHT) with these DLCs that don't work; DLCs that contain nothing.

i'm done
i'm out
i'm pissed off

happy defending ya'll

I know you're upset, but they don't have much choice. Like Hitmonchan said, memory limits prevent them from adding the Weaponry from Sky and CD. It sucks, but it's how it has to be. Do you want an oft-crashing DD on consoles with the weapons that Trendy can't do much about, or a rarely crashing DD on consoles without the weapons?

Again, I know it sucks, but it's how it is. Consoles are very restricted in terms of hardware. Doesn't help that it costs money to release a patch, IIRC.

http://forums.trendyent.com/showthread.php?72385-DunDef-Digest-7-25-12-Discussion-Thread/page7&p=585737[[1611,hashtags]]

'giv consoles DLC! is r totally unfair'
'DLC sucks shouldnt have givn us it'
>.>... you get the idea...

If it were TF2, it'd probably be a nightmare to get it to work on Consoles. Nigh on impossible, IMO. NEeds more Hats though. :)

--snip--

It's not like you have the end of the Lost Eternia Shards story line or the Crystaline Dimension to battle through. You are right, the game is worthless without the unique rewards.

As for only releasing the core game with no DLC, really? No offense, but the console players have been whining non-stop it seems like about not getting holiday dlc and having to wait after PC gets dlc before receiving it through a patch. The point being, that either way you look at it, someone would be unhappy about the DLC situation and complain.

But to be fair, it does suck that what was promised in DLC cannot be delivered to Consoles. I wish Trendy had been able to know previously that they would be unable to release everything they promised. I do not think it is as bad as you are making it out to be.

I am sorry that you feel(justly or unjustly) that Trendy has mistreated and lied to console players. I know that this was never their intention.

Hopefully they get around to tweaking the class DPS balance before or shortly after this comes out. The Jester seems fun but without tweaking class damage it not going to compete with the Barb and Monk as they are especially as it lacks the offensive and boost skills of the individual classes whose weapons it can use.

No one is going to use Jester for DPS, that's unreasonable. She doesn't have the capabilities to reliably tank and prevent monster advancement. IF she were to go melee, she'd be useless without survivability like the barbarian is with the shield (And even with that stance he can still have issues). And if she goes ranged, she'll still be useless because ranged DPS is the worse.

No one is going to use Jester for DPS, that's unreasonable. She doesn't have the capabilities to reliably tank and prevent monster advancement. IF she were to go melee, she'd be useless without survivability like the barbarian is with the shield (And even with that stance he can still have issues). And if she goes ranged, she'll still be useless because ranged DPS is the worse.

Sounds like jesters are gonna be quite the kickable class :-P no towers, no DPS, not much incentive to have one

They do have 'towers', but they're random and uncontrollable. I doubt the Jester class will be used in serious loot grinding, she sounds very unreliable and inconstant.

wheel o fortuna
move towers
1du pres
2du pres
3du pres

theres still room for 2 more skills...

im kinda stoked about the additional DDDK content.

Will consoles get a pet for aquanos in the incoming patch?

Will consoles get a pet for aquanos in the incoming patch?

Yep! :^)

Yep! :^)

Will console get the seahorse? :squire:

Yep! :^)

Awesome! :D
This is a really good news.

Thanks Hitmon.

I dunno about the Jester being 'useless' but I do think she's gonna be an interesting choice, even if she IS gonna be a gamble, literally :P either way, 6 more days till we find out!

wheel o fortuna
move towers
1du pres
2du pres
3du pres

theres still room for 2 more skills...

what present-like abilities could they be....

what present-like abilities could they be....

is that a question or a musing? i feel obligated to reply to a quote but dont know how...
if it was a question... http://forums.trendyent.com/showthread.php?72395-DunDef-Digest-7-25-12
if it was a musing... i kinda hope they have the same abilities as the hero whos weapon they're holding (although slightly nerfed... because they can swap mid combat phase - would correspond to outfit, jester would get countess abilities and fool; squire)
... always possible that she just doesnt have those hotkeys

Sounds like jesters are gonna be quite the kickable class :-P
no towers, no DPS, not much incentive to have one

If only we could switch characters during a stage.
And like, you know, not get stuck with the class we started the run with.
Oh, wait.................................... we can. ^_^

Not only that, but I'm sure there are people out there who are playing with some intention of having fun. As much as it's a total joy to run NMHCMM Survival for the 100th time, with an identical build for the 100th time, just to get zero upgrades. And at the least, even in Survivals, her tower movement ability will be life-saving. An active Jester could do credible DPS while also being able to move towers or walls on-the-fly. After Sharken pushes, after realizing a damage tower is set at a bad angle, realizing an aura or trap is too far out/in, etc. Assuming her movement ability can be used in battle phase, and not just build, I should say.

Honestly..

i was just going to sign off after reading the console update but i can't refrain and i apologize ahead of time for what is surely going to be a critical and scathing reply.

so they won't be including any new content (weapons, pets) in the new console DLC? maybe i am missing something but what exactly am i downloading then? one new level... with no new rewards or characters or features or prizes or game modes or incentive to play?

this is the last DLC for this game, the last chance to keep your playerbase interested for a few more months, and this is how it goes down? please tell me what is supposed to be appealing about this DLC... farming up a slightly more powerful earth-shaper than the 100s i have already?? NO ONE WANTS AN EARTHSHAPER WITH 200 UPGRADES!!!

trendy will need to radically redesign the way they make DLC. why would you even put yourself in the position of having to try to cram all the new content into a patch?! it should be part of the DLC.

waiting for months after every time i purchased a DLC for a patch that would make it playable was extremely frustrating. after the utter and total failure that is the aquanos DLC all my friends quit playing but i have been checking the forums once a week waiting for the good news about a upcoming patch and new exciting DLC... only to hear this news . you should have just released the core game to console. the DownLoadable Content has NO CONTENT! my friends and i were happy playing until you started stealing money (YEAH, YOU READ THAT RIGHT) with these DLCs that don't work; DLCs that contain nothing.

i'm done
i'm out
i'm pissed off

happy defending ya'll

I totally agree with this guy. I personally will NOT be buying the DLC, because i dont beleive i should pay for something with so LITTLE CONTENT. Since when is the content of a patch supposed to outdo the content of a DLC? because it seems we are getting alot more in the patch (which is free) than the DLC. The fact that all we are getting is 3 maps with ABSOLUTELY NO PETS OR WEAPONS is ridiculous. cancel the DLC all together, infact, cancel support for consoles,just to save us an eternity of dissappiontment.

You say you want to be a good gaming company? With the work your acheiveing all your doing is losing a significantly large amount of players in your console community. Try a little harder Trendy, because what we are all seeing at the moment, is absolutely, Pathetic.

This may sound like total rubbish, but how is it, when I was brainstorming a suggestion for Jester (A long time ago), I though of a wheel of fortune ability AND she could use all weapons? Wierd. One problem with her that I see is her towers are absolutely useless.

EDIT: And the little console ya-da ya-da thats going on. It's MICROSOFT'S FAULT FOR HAVING LOW MEMORY THINGY. And you do realise you don't have to buy DLC's, right? Well, thats me done. PHASE SHIFT OUT OF FORUMS!

is 'visually stunning' code for 'lag ahoy!'?

Bank on it.

Do you want an oft-crashing DD on consoles with the weapons that Trendy can't do much about, or a rarely crashing DD on consoles without the weapons?

How about a game THAT WORKS and NEVER CRASHES. You know, like when we had cartridges.

Radical concept, I know...

Any news if console is getting an Invest All button?

Any news if console is getting an Invest All button?

Nope. Not enough memory..

Nope. Not enough memory..

So no invest all button, no pro mode... Guess it's gonna take 45 minutes to start upgrading weapons -.-

How about a game THAT WORKS and NEVER CRASHES. You know, like when we had cartridges.

Radical concept, I know...

Cartridges can have more hardware inside them, though not much I believe. By the way, Cartridge game can still break, and crash. Superman 64 is pretty broken. All Consoles have a limit. You cannot push them any further than their limit. Sorry.

Saying cartridge game never crash and always work is major ignorance.