Anyone else having unlocked shops and floor items stolen?

I came back from an AFK shop session only to find my shop unlocked and all my floor items missing. I know I make sure at all times that my floor items are always locked since I'm paranoid like that. I checked out a few other shops and they too are unlocked with no floor items, though I don't have solid proof they ever had floor items in the first place.

Just wonder if it was just me or something. Disappointed at my missing things, I can replace them over time though.

I've looked over several other shops, and seen a few advertised with "Floor items" cleaned out and unlocked.

It's probably some kind of hack to trick the game into thinking it should be unlocked. I wouldn't use the floor to be honest. Or at the very least put them in your private room.

D= If so that is a big problem.

*bump*

It isn't all that big a problem. If you didn't want to lose it, you wouldn't have left it out. And yes, I understand that you had the shop locked most likely and that some glitch triggered the change if it happened.

The thing is, laying them out like that just seems foolish and a bad feature. The only reason for it is to show off, or to let someone pick it up. It wasn't really meant to have your items out so people can make a bid on your item.

While trendy doesn't want you losing stuff and will track down the issue of the shop lock to be sure if it is there or not, they probably won't make an effort to restore anything because the floor was not meant to be used for sales.

Well the floor IS frequently used for sales, for people who want to sell items that they feel are worth more than 600 million. It's about 90% of what I see people use the floor for these days (While I will admit seeing people doing it only to show off items was tiresome)

It IS a big deal, because lots of people run their afk shops this way.

Just logged off steam altogether. Made a private room and it's now locked again. I know I'm not going crazy here but I 100% know for sure I did not relock my tavern upon seeing it unlocked with everything missing, and the last map saved was Assault Part 1 Nightmare, not Deeper Wells Medium.

I feel no sympathy at all, if this is truly happening.

And, perhaps this is the push needed to get players to keep items at the allowed cost.

Well the floor IS frequently used for sales, for people who want to sell items that they feel are worth more than 600 million.

Lol, Trendy doesn't support selling items by tokens... You take the risk by doing so. :)

Really, you feel absolutely no sympathy for all the people who've lost billions of mana over this already?

Are you a sociopath?

Are you a sociopath?

Nope, he is just logical. He is playing the game within the bounds set by Trendy. I have no sympathy for people who gambled and lost by this either. That would be like having sympathy for people who lost their life savings in Vegas. If you didn't want to lose it, why did you gamble it?

It's NOT a gamble though.

If you lock your tavern, you should be able to go to bed knowing that everything is A-OK. Finding out that the lock didn't work and you lost everything on the floor isn't the same as willingly going out and gambling.

Nope, he is just logical. He is playing the game within the bounds set by Trendy. I have no sympathy for people who gambled and lost by this either. That would be like having sympathy for people who lost their life savings in Vegas. If you didn't want to lose it, why did you gamble it?

I'd (potentially) have more sympathy for some one gambling with their life savings (overall): there are reasons (desperate situations) where I would feel sympathetic to an individual's circumstance that led the gambling.

Can't buy mana (bread) with mana (DD 'currency').

It's NOT a gamble though.

If you lock your tavern, you should be able to go to bed knowing that everything is A-OK. Finding out that the lock didn't work and you lost everything on the floor isn't the same as willingly going out and gambling.

You are also 1) talking real dollars to play money and 2) talking about people who are circumventing the hard coded trade system. Itseems to me to be like doing multi-session trades or trading using a middle man; it's an at-your-own-risk not-supported-but-possible activity.

I think that it's a problem.

No matter what you say, about legal limits and all...
If someone can unlock your floor, it has to be prevented. Period.
It does not matter the reason you put the items there. If Trendy sets a floor cap it is for something. If not, they just put 0 there and no one can use the floor. If they have the feature it has to be secure.

At least that's my opinion.

Another solution for this, is PLEASE allow the people to see the stats of locked items in store.
Then i can lock an item i think it's worth more than 600m and people can ask for it.
Now if it is locked i cannot see it. that way people don't need to put stuff in floor.

It's NOT a gamble though.

If you lock your tavern, you should be able to go to bed knowing that everything is A-OK. Finding out that the lock didn't work and you lost everything on the floor isn't the same as willingly going out and gambling.

Of course it's a gamble. Trendy doesn't support selling like this, and therefore it's a gamble. Your willingly attempting to sell using tokens and the tavern floor.

I think that it's a problem.

No matter what you say, about legal limits and all...
If someone can unlock your floor, it has to be prevented. Period.
It does not matter the reason you put the items there. If Trendy sets a floor cap it is for something. If not, they just put 0 there and no one can use the floor. If they have the feature it has to be secure.

At least that's my opinion.

It's definitely a bug, but it wouldn't be a big problem for the occasional drop on the floor. It's only a problem when people use it as storage, which is not it's purpose.

Another solution for this, is PLEASE allow the people to see the stats of locked items in store.
Then i can lock an item i think it's worth more than 600m and people can ask for it.
Now if it is locked i cannot see it. that way people don't need to put stuff in floor.

That is still token trading which Trendy does not acknowledge or support. Rather than going to the trouble of doing all that, they could just raise the mana cap if that is what they wanted.

Of course it's a gamble. Trendy doesn't support selling like this, and therefore it's a gamble. Your willingly attempting to sell using tokens and the tavern floor.

I'm referring to the laying of items on the floor in the first place. If you put items on the ground and lock, there shouldn't be an inherent risk of them getting stolen.

It's definitely a bug, but it wouldn't be a big problem for the occasional drop on the floor. It's only a problem when people use it as storage.

Which lots of people do. Have you gone browsing through the shops? Like, ever? It's a big problem that affects a large part of the population. It doesn't matter if you think it's not something that should be done for whatever silly reason, what matters is that it's an issue and a potentially dangerous one at that.

Which lots of people do. Have you gone browsing through the shops? Like, ever? It's a big problem that affects a large part of the population. It doesn't matter if you think it's not something that should be done for whatever silly reason, what matters is that it's an issue and a potentially dangerous one at that.

Lots of people do crack cocaine, does that mean the government should make it legal?

This may not even be happening guys, no need to get your boxers in a bundle. :)

I'm referring to the laying of items on the floor in the first place. If you put items on the ground and lock, there shouldn't be an inherent risk of them getting stolen.

We get your point, but your point is irrelivant, because of YOUR use of 'the floor.' You're not just dropping and item to pick it up a moment later. You're using the ground to sell/store items beyond the means that you were alotted. You're trying to beat the system, and therefor you are taking a risk in doing so.

You have a desginated place to store items, use it and you wouldn't have a problem.

This may not even be happening guys, no need to get your boxers in a bundle. :)



We get your point, but your point is irrelivant, because of YOUR use of 'the floor.'

You have a desginated place to store items, use it and you wouldn't have a problem.

Exactly. Keep in mind this is only a problem when you aren't there. Most people paying attention would notice if their floor suddenly unlocked and they would fix it immediately. Using the floor as storage is what makes this a problem.

Lots of people do crack cocaine, does that mean the government should make it legal?

So you're going to equate people choosing to use their floors as a way to show items with hard drugs.

That's an argument that totally makes sense and holds no flaws. I commend you, I really, really do.

We get your point, but your point is irrelivant, because of YOUR use of 'the floor.'

You have a desginated place to store items, use it and you wouldn't have a problem.

And what do you do when you run out of storage in those places? Just stop picking items up forever? NPC good items someone else could make use out of?

What people want to use their items for doesn't matter. It should be a safe place to lay items down. I don't even merchant and I use my floor to hold all my different sets in random parts of the tavern so they won't get mixed up. It should be a channel that's just as secure as your item box, or your shop.

I wonder if this is a hack... then does that mean someone can also hack the game into allowing that same person to drop hacked gear or to hack it so they can spam towers into your tavern?

There could be a larger problem here.

So you're going to equate people choosing to use their floors as a way to show items with hard drugs.

That's an argument that totally makes sense and holds no flaws. I commend you, I really, really do.

Well I could have said "If everyone jumped off a bridge..." but I felt that one was getting a little tired. Your insulting me doesn't change the fact that your complaint is centered around the fact that your circumventing the system design is no longer working and that is what is upsetting you.

And what do you do when you run out of storage in those places? Just stop picking items up forever? NPC good items someone else could make use out of?

Yes actually. That's what trendy wanted or they wouldn't have put a limit on your storage space.

And what do you do when you run out of storage in those places? Just stop picking items up forever? NPC good items someone else could make use out of?.

If you use the space as intended (not storing items as potental tokens,) you would realize that you have more than enough slots to keep what you need and/or want.

You're trying to argue ill-intent, and it won't work. :)

Not only that...

Which is the floor cap?... If meant to the ocasional item, it would be 1 ... 2 maybe 10... but no.. it higher than that.
And Trendy expanded it some time ago...

Why if not to use as storage/display?

Exactly. Keep in mind this is only a problem when you aren't there. Most people paying attention would notice if their floor suddenly unlocked and they would fix it immediately. Using the floor as storage is what makes this a problem.

Simply telling people to be there isn't the point.

Simply telling people to be there isn't the point.

Things are getting deleted from your AFK shop? That another story, I thought we were talking about the floor. The AFK shop is a Trendy-sanctioned method of transaction. The AFK shop's purpose is to go AFK, the floor's is not.