Can Apprentices solo NM Campaign mode?

I left for about 6 weeks to come back and find that the spawns on all of the NM maps seem to have changed. Djinn now roam around unsummoning my towers and Ogres seem to me at least to have had their HPs buffed (and spawn more often than before).

For example: my NM ES build which used to be cake is now a slaughterhouse which I can barely survive.

Is it actually possible to go through the entire campaign mode (not including the Eterna Shards add-on maps) solo with an Apprentice now?

I think it does yes, and most certainly if you count alt heroes as solo. If you use a monk and trapper and such along with your apprentice you should have no problems soloing the campaign. Can probably do it without those as well.

While I do have a lvl 75 Monk, Squire and Hunter and can swap them back and forth, I was more curious as to whether the Apprentice is capable of soloing the campaign NM maps on his own any longer.

Adding a few gas traps/ensnares is almost mandatory. You don't even need good stats on those. Not even the squire in his glory days should be played without those.

That being said I think you could solo most maps with just an apprentice. It's a very bad idea though, and you're probably going to have to be quite overgeared. If you're looking to break into nm mode and finish campaign, that's going to be really hard. Going to need to layer your walls and replace them quite a bit. And manage to not die during all that. Especially the boss fights.

I did them all on NM HC with my apprentice just before djinns came out. Had less than 1k stats for the most part. I will say that I used ensnare auras in addition to app towers.

I'm guessing that with djinns you pretty much just need to add gas traps. On summit you should keep some spare DU for towers to kill the dragon + use a guardian to buff them. No need to upgrade.

I left for about 6 weeks to come back and find that the spawns on all of the NM maps seem to have changed. Djinn now roam around unsummoning my towers and Ogres seem to me at least to have had their HPs buffed (and spawn more often than before).

For example: my NM ES build which used to be cake is now a slaughterhouse which I can barely survive.

Is it actually possible to go through the entire campaign mode (not including the Eterna Shards add-on maps) solo with an Apprentice now?

i am a die hard app builder and refuse to bow down to squires. After alot of trial and error (ALOT of error), finally came up with a pure NM HC ES and Glitter builds using app only. works 99% of the time. But, i have alot of troubles in 2 or more player games because we just dont have the staying power versus squires. Low HP barricades.

My stats are roughly 900/1500/900/500

Here is my pure APP ES build, zero problems with djinns, i keep my apprentice out with a guardian. stand next to towers to kill the ogres.

http://html5.cubicleninja.com/cubicleninja/html5/dd/index.htm?layout=28286

Yes ...

Can you solo nm with app and only use app towers? Yes. It will require 2k+ stats and a lot of rebuilding/maintenance.

Should you solo nm with app and only use app towers? No. App/Trapper seem to be a valid duo class progression at this point. Aura monk as well. Solo all you want, but life gets much easier when you have 4-5 lvl 74+ classes to swap out and build with.

Time to level some support classes.

For me, app was very viable solo (roughly 1k stats) Only recently i upped to 1500 T - Attack, only place that i hit a complete brick wall was on maps with bosses (Summit, Misty, Moro) or Monster Fest maps.

I wish there are more updated guides that are non-squire.

For me, app was very viable solo (roughly 1k stats) Only recently i upped to 1500 T - Attack, only place that i hit a complete brick wall was on maps with bosses (Summit, Misty, Moro) or Monster Fest maps.

I wish there are more updated guides that are non-squire.

As kandar is showing, if you put darkness in place, you can pretty much switch out fireballs for harpoons in most builds. But yeah, that requires a trapper.
Alternatively, with high enough tower health, your app walls might hold, and they'll remove fire resist from the 25% of mobs that have it. You might get unlucky with a pair of fire resist ogres, though. That would wipe you.

But, an hour spent in glitter insane building with your app and then switching to a trapper will get her to level 74, and you can just stick any old grar on her for now. Darkness traps just need a bit of health and range. As you play through the campaign, you can gear her out.

Yes ...

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App is very viable as a builder after the squire nerf, however you still need traps auras and walls for the harder maps

Solo (as in solo without switching chars)campaign its probably possible but really hard unless you have high stats. Especially summit/glitter i dont see how app walls alone can sustain the damage since you cant always be there to repair due to the size of the maps.

Before I wish to try writing a tl;dr lol

Plugging Bashnek's NM App Tuts http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL331B27D96E54561E

Nothing but App & a dps pet (which is for convenience)

Time to level some support classes.

But, an hour spent in glitter insane building with your app and then switching to a trapper will get her to level 74, and you can just stick any old grar on her for now. Darkness traps just need a bit of health and range. As you play through the campaign, you can gear her out.

And again... as I already said earlier..

While I do have a lvl 75 Monk, Squire and Hunter and can swap them back and forth, I was more curious as to whether the Apprentice is capable of soloing the campaign NM maps on his own any longer.

The reason being that previously I could solo all of the maps except for MM with my Apprentice on NM and was curious as to just how bad things had become in the past six weeks.

FYI, my apprentice' tower stats are 950/1100/900/1040 so he is not really gimped but also not very *uber* either.

Sorry. Missed that. Answer is basically no. I mean, it can be done, but it'll be a pain in the butt. Better to just pull out the support crew and build something solid than try to do it just for the sake of it.
Vast parts of nightmare isn't really doable with any single character any more, especially with those stats, and especially the bosses.

FYI, my apprentice' tower stats are 950/1100/900/1040 so he is not really gimped but also not very *uber* either.

Check out Bashnek's vids & see how it goes if you don't mind perusing other people's builds.

His campaign run was made after Djinns & uses only 500 stats offset by a very good dps pet, but when I had used his tuts before, I had a 700/1300/xx/xx (forgot x's but lower than yours for sure) App w/ a Genie & it went as well—only a bit more effort was put in since I had to kill what his pet would kill for him.

Until Sharkmen come to scramble some builds, the answer is easily yes.

Ah! i remember my good ol' apprentice who could make spider queen taste her own dirt. But not anymore. That huge nerf shifted the imbalance from app to squire. You can try to do campaign, yeah, but dont even think of venturing into survivals now unless you have like a 320^ trans gear on that apprentice.

Ah! i remember my good ol' apprentice who could make spider queen taste her own dirt. But not anymore. That huge nerf shifted the imbalance from app to squire. You can try to do campaign, yeah, but dont even think of venturing into survivals now unless you have like a 320^ trans gear on that apprentice.

Other than Fireball Towers, Apprentices are stronger now than they were before they were nerfed. I can survival just fine with my App on Alch Labs and Mistymire through the early 20's and my gear is considered to be on the low end of the Mythic scale (1200 tower damage).

Other than Fireball Towers, Apprentices are stronger now than they were before they were nerfed. I can survival just fine with my App on Alch Labs and Mistymire through the early 20's and my gear is considered to be on the low end of the Mythic scale (1200 tower damage).

I am having a hard time believing that, unless you get help from very high dps players and you use the enrage+darkness build on misty. Or ofc, you use buff beams with guardians. Either way, you CANNOT SOLO the apprentice build at all unlike the squire builder. Blockades die in seconds and spider webs really f*cks everything up as attack rate is everything for apprenitice.

If you have been gone for 6 weeks, I recommend staying gone for another week. You're pretty much having to relearn everything, and in 4 days, you (and every player in the game) will have to relearn everything once Sharken comes in play.

Djinns pretty much makes Squire/App Towers a MUST.
Sharken pretty much makes Hunter/Monk Towers a MUST.

I am having a hard time believing that, unless you get help from very high dps players and you use the enrage+darkness build on misty. Or ofc, you use buff beams with guardians. Either way, you CANNOT SOLO the apprentice build at all unlike the squire builder. Blockades die in seconds and spider webs really f*cks everything up as attack rate is everything for apprenitice.

Based on what? No one uses Enrage Auras anymore because of djinn. No one uses Magic Barriers anymore for their primary walls, and Spike Blockades pretty much only used by people who don't have Series EV. Spider webs are just as much a problem for Squire towers as they are for Apprentice towers.

Have you been sleeping the past 2 months? The way people used to play is no longer relevant to the way the game is now. The strength of a particular class' towers is only a small part of why the game plays differently at any given point in time.

P.S. I play solo and I've been using Misty survival lately to get exp for my aura monk, so I'm not even getting active builder bonus. Aside from 4 harpoons from a not particularly well geared Countess, all of my offensive towers are from my Adept.

I did the campaign with an App with roughly 800 across the board. Had some help on the Summit, but if you do everything right, you should be able to do it.

BTW, you can also do it with really low-end myths. Stats like 500/600/400/450 on towers should make it possible to solo.
This guy has made a tutorial for the whole campaign with these stats (and App only builds): http://www.youtube.com/user/BashnekGaming

Based on what? No one uses Enrage Auras anymore because of djinn. No one uses Magic Barriers anymore for their primary walls, and Spike Blockades pretty much only used by people who don't have Series EV. Spider webs are just as much a problem for Squire towers as they are for Apprentice towers.

Have you been sleeping the past 2 months? The way people used to play is no longer relevant to the way the game is now. The strength of a particular class' towers is only a small part of why the game plays differently at any given point in time.

P.S. I play solo and I've been using Misty survival lately to get exp for my aura monk, so I'm not even getting active builder bonus. Aside from 4 harpoons from a not particularly well geared Countess, all of my offensive towers are from my Adept.

I still use enrage+darkness, just put em in range of your towers so that djinns are taken out before they can zap it. And by solo, i thought solo builder (just apprentice towers). I am still not sure what the OP is talking about, solo builder or single player. If he meant single player, then by all means it can be accomplished, irrespective of whether the main builder has decent stats or not. Class hybrid builds works much better. If however, he meant a solo builder, then its NOT possible. Now you can use a squire solo builder to complete any map but not the apprentice. Apprentice cannot solo build mistymire at all unless someone hax. Be my guest and please do try to do it on mistymire. If you can get past wave 10, ill be glad to acknowledge you as the greatest defender i have ever seen.

PS:- Those 4 harpoons are actually helping you to take out ogres much faster. Its not a solo apprentice build by all means.

I still use enrage+darkness, just put em in range of your towers so that djinns are taken out before they can zap it. And by solo, i thought solo builder (just apprentice towers). I am still not sure what the OP is talking about, solo builder or single player. If he meant single player, then by all means it can be accomplished, irrespective of whether the main builder has decent stats or not. Class hybrid builds works much better. If however, he meant a solo builder, then its NOT possible. Now you can use a squire solo builder to complete any map but not the apprentice. Apprentice cannot solo build mistymire at all unless someone hax. Be my guest and please do try to do it on mistymire. If you can get past wave 10, ill be glad to acknowledge you as the greatest defender i have ever seen.

PS:- Those 4 harpoons are actually helping you to take out ogres much faster. Its not a solo apprentice build by all means.

This isn't about campaign: you said that survival is impossible for an Apprentice. Guess what? Doing survival with only Squire towers is just as impossible as it is with only Apprentice towers. And by doing survival, I mean getting to wave 20 or better.

Of course I'm not using only Apprentice defenses: I also use EV walls and buff beams, Gas and Darkness traps, and Ensnare Auras. You aren't using a solo Squire build either, since you've admitted to using auras. No one else is using a solo Squire build on Misty, either. I just happen to be using harpoons in the same way that other people use proximities to supplement their main offensive towers' damage. If you think 3 harpoons (the 4th is pointed exclusively at wyverns) are carrying my build, you need a reality check.

Building with a single class is dead beyond the original maps for campaign.