Farming... What else ?

Hi,

I've got 3 lvl 74 caracters : a tower App, an aura Monk and a DPS Hunter. All stuffed with low myth found during the first waves of NM ES.

Insane mode is too easy now, and NM is very difficult.

The single way i've found to progress is to farm NM ES to make mana and up my gears. But it's soooooo ennoying.... It reminds me WoW, and i hate that :monk:

What do you suggest ?

With entry level myth you can try survival hardcore on Alch Labs or magus quarters to get some better myths on higher waves - make sure those stats are all upgraded tho - what are ur stats anyways?

A) Do a few runs on HC. The increase in gear quality is quite significant.

B) Make sure you check the pets in the tavern shop after every run you complete. Pets with ~100^ and 100 in beneficial stats (the monk for example, Tower HP, damage, and range. The rest dosent matter b/c you very rarely will have an aura monk out during combat). Occasionally you'll get a really nice one which is only 10 mana. Look especially for app/hunt guards with 40+ boost and 40+^.

C) Try doing misty. Even if you fail, getting the chests from wave 2 onwards can very quickly surpass what you can get on spires. Once you can consistently make it too the boss without dying every 5 seconds, do it on HC.

D) Alch labs survival. The ogres might be plentiful, but they lack the hp of their misty/spires counterparts. Once you get to wave 10, the mana just rolls in (To maximise profit, make sure to loot good half decent items during waves as lots of gear will dissapear. Fill up your box midwave then sell it at the end of each wave). Wave 15 onwards you could easily make 100M per wave if you loot (20-30M if you dont). Also has very decent weapons and armour after wave 10-12.

Thanks for your answers.
Perhaps my strat is not good. My App is 400/700/400/400 with low DPS. So i have to switch with my DPS Hunt, but i lose 30% of my towers stats. I can't pass last wave of Alch Labs in NM, my towers don't have enough HP. So i guess i can't try survival...

I can do NM ES HC, why not... I can try Misty too, but spiders eat my towers too fast... Maybe i have to find a better build.

Towers are more important on NM- you may want to keep your apprentice out for the builder bonus. If you upgrade your weapon for damage and get a modest amount of hero damage, you can still put out useable DPS without gimping your towers (also known as a hybrid build).

Make a Squire. Apprentices suck now.

Do some challenges :) !!! They are always fun, try some on NM, it's much easier with whatever current gear you have !!!
Otherwise Endless Spries/Ramparts-NMHC grind-fest ftw xD !!!

Make a Squire. Apprentices suck now.

Yes and no.

Squire towers are better for shooting through crowds of ogres while Apprentice towers can actually hit things like spiders and kobolds.

It all depends on what you are trying to do.

Towers are more important on NM- you may want to keep your apprentice out for the builder bonus. If you upgrade your weapon for damage and get a modest amount of hero damage, you can still put out useable DPS without gimping your towers (also known as a hybrid build).

I've got a staff with 100^ charge speed but my DPS are quite low (200k). And i've got a good genie to help me build during first waves. What to you suggest if i want to keep my App during waves ? Is there any kind of staff better than another ?

Tower dps is much more important than hero dps for heroes of your stats in NM. In NM ES HC, you're mostly there to boost the towers, upgrade, repair and survive so your tower will get that 33% builder bonus. I would also suggest switching to a squire build as it seem more survival (HP) and seem to work well in NM since the patch that boosted squire towers. However, app builds are still decent even after the nerf.

Right now i'm stuck at the same phase. I have a few 74s with low mytics (nothing over 700) and i was able to complete the first few maps on NM but not alch labs. I can also get up to the last wave of ES but i usually fail halfway through. To help break up the tedium of farming better gear i've been going through the achievement list and trying to complete anything that i can.

Are there any decent low stat strategies for alch labs out there? I have one of each builder with average 500 tower stats, plus a huntress with about 160k dps.

Get an apprentice or hunter guardian, even one with only 20 boost. Now do ES NM HC and run to the towers blowing up ogres to win. Use this gear to get roughly 500/1000 in hp/attack for tower. Now do Mistymire NM HC. Although I use a squire on misty instead.

Edit: Ditch to tavern when spider queen approaches.

Unfortunately, it comes to a point where all you'll be doing is farming Misty Survival, so it's even worse than WoW when it comes to that. I'd say start working on Misty though until you get good enough gear to beat the boss. Then move on to survival.

Right now i'm stuck at the same phase. I have a few 74s with low mytics (nothing over 700) and i was able to complete the first few maps on NM but not alch labs. I can also get up to the last wave of ES but i usually fail halfway through. To help break up the tedium of farming better gear i've been going through the achievement list and trying to complete anything that i can.

Are there any decent low stat strategies for alch labs out there? I have one of each builder with average 500 tower stats, plus a huntress with about 160k dps.

I'm not that far ahead of you, and I couldn't beat the boss on Alchem labs either. What I did was host a campaign game named something like "help alchem labs" and multiple people came to help. I wasn't far off from beating it myself, I just couldn't handle the boss solo. Resists are really important for the boss, since it's hard to avoid getting hit. After that survival opened up for me.

I was able to beat campaign ES myself though. ensnare + str drain + repairs make ogres a lot easier. When you are low on tower damage, you need the auras to give your towers time to whittle the ogres down. One extra attacking tower won't help as much as slowing/weakening the ogres. Plus if you can find a spot to repair without getting hit, your towers should do the rest.

Resists are really important for the boss, since it's hard to avoid getting hit.

Having a squire with a 100% block weapon really helps with this (the dragon too). Even if it means dropping the 30% bonus, you can keep the guardian boost going much longer which more than makes up for it.