Flavor of the day

Not sure if trendy is doing this on purpose to sub for content or if they just have no beta testers in their beta group...but these huge changes and partial unchanges and rechanges every day have to stop. Many games have died off for having a flavor of the month...you are creating a flavor of the day and people are dropping like flys. Used to have about 50 people online in my group at all times. Most have I seen on at once in the last week is 4...
And just about everyone I talk to in game is sick of your changes every day and thinking of quitting because of them.

Just to be clear this is not about any specific change...this is about huge changes happening every few days and them being way over the top... I mean you claim you have people testing this stuff...the way it takes the players a matter of minutes to find the problems with these changes...many you can find just from reading the notes without even logging into the game shows that either your testers are not being allowed to test the stuff you are changing or you need new ones.

Stop completely changing the game balance every 2 days...especially when you overreact so bad that it ends up even less balanced than before your change.

I don't care what class is strongest, best, fastest, most dps, best tower builder...what pet is best or worst...what board is hard or easy...just stop changing it every single time I log in...

PS> Specifically about nightmare you have 3 choices
1) You can call it beta admitting that all you have in released format for a max level character is easy mode...as that is what insane is to a level 74 and that you might have something released in 6 months that will make a max level character put on their armor...
2) You can admit that nightmare IS content and accept that people are pissed that you keep doing massive changes to the ONLY content for a max level character
3) You can watch your online #s continue to fall like a rock as people quit left and right

They have a bunch of out of touch old people doing beta testing for the game and they are trying to make 4 different characters try to be balanced.. somehow. You might as well make the entire game about the apprentice.

It also doesn't help with the hardcore mutants hooting at the devs to add more challenge.

PS> Specifically about nightmare you have 3 choices
1) You can call it beta admitting that all you have in released format for a max level character is easy mode...as that is what insane is to a level 74 and that you might have something released in 6 months that will make a max level character put on their armor...
2) You can admit that nightmare IS content and accept that people are pissed that you keep doing massive changes to the ONLY content for a max level character
3) You can watch your online #s continue to fall like a rock as people quit left and right

I thought they had done #1... they admitted that Nightmare is in Pre-Release and is still being balanced, constantly. It's sort of like we're the beta testers for the mode. ;p Least that's what I saw them say somewhere. Also, numbers aren't falling that quickly. ;p

I thought they had done #1... they admitted that Nightmare is in Pre-Release and is still being balanced, constantly. It's sort of like we're the beta testers for the mode. ;p Least that's what I saw them say somewhere. Also, numbers aren't falling that quickly. ;p

The #s aren't falling because there is no sub to cancel so they are still counting everyone who ever played...and they only admit that nightmare is beta...not that there is no released content for a max level player...they keep trying to have it both ways...insane too easy play nightmare...don't like nightmare changes don't worry its beta...they need to pick one or the other either nightmare is content or its not period

Many games have died off for having a flavor of the month...you are creating a flavor of the day

I was called an idiot pulling things out of his *** for pointing this out. Glad I'm not the only one who thinks this is a crap balance philosophy.

I was wondering why the ogres suddenly got a lot tankier...
Guess what, my pets are useless ;[.
And I was happy that I almost got on Wave 12 on Mistymire.

Flavor of the day huh?

Back to Guardians we go!

About 3 months ago, I was complaining about the same things, they changing everything from one day to another and things like that. I come back to play this game many months later and it's still the same ****. They make us lose time doing a certain build / strategy, then nerf it to the ground so it becomes useless and something else becomes overpowered.

I give up on you grindfest mfers...

long time lurker but in this case +1 i want our voices to be heard!

I'll +1 to this as well.

+2

-> I second this

+3 Try extensive beta testing.. and get better/more beta testers

I paid for a game, not to be your beta tester.

The way this game is set up its almost like a mmorpg. In this sense you can expect constant changes and balances and reworkings for at least 1 year. Then it should calm way down.

I agree this game was released too soon but its a business now and they have to follow a business model. So you will see more content before everything is fixed. There number one issue is hackers and paypal shops and not balancing. This is why ppl are leaving in my view. PPL will get used to the new balances and just all make squires :)

who will be left in 1 year ?

I paid for a game, not to be your beta tester.

Then stop playing NM and toss out your NM-level gear. It's a give and take here, and you have access to Misty on other difficulties. If you are such a purist and not just a blowhard trying to make their $15 sound more important than everyone else's, then you should be completely happy with this. This was "early access" to NM, cited as a bonus for buying the new DLC - not something they forced down your throat.

Then stop playing NM and toss out your NM-level gear. It's a give and take here, and you have access to Misty on other difficulties. If you are such a purist and not just a blowhard trying to make their $15 sound more important than everyone else's, then you should be completely happy with this. This was "early access" to NM, cited as a bonus for buying the new DLC - not something they forced down your throat.

yup cause early access is same as beta access lol

Think it out. If something is a bonus and therefore free, do you really have the right to complain about its quality while justifying said complaints with a reminder that you paid for the game?

Think it out. If something is a bonus and therefore free, do you really have the right to complain about its quality while justifying said complaints with a reminder that you paid for the game?

You try thinking about it...if you toss out nightmare (beta) you have now bought a game where you dont even need to wear armor because nothing can even challenge a max level character without their armor on.

You try thinking about it...if you toss out nightmare (beta) you have now bought a game where you dont even need to wear armor because nothing can even challenge a max level character without their armor on.

What does that have to do with the question I asked? People are complaining, and they are doing so on the premise that the game they paid for is changing too often, but what they are playing is "early access/beta/whatever you want to call it". If it is just a matter of semantics, then stop being so shallow and just wag your finger at Trendy and say "you goobers should have just called it a beta".

If it is about the level cap being too high, well, there isn't a lot to be done about that - call it egg on their face if you want, but the changes are their way of trying to tweak it to a manageable level. There is effort being put forth to make you happy, and you are chastising them for it. Whether or not someone "paid to be a beta tester", chances are this is all because they are a new developer with one game under their belt.

This community expects far too much and seems to feel way too much entitlement. Snap your fingers all you want, the game isn't going to reach a steady state overnight.

I don't have much room to comment since i don't play on PC, but i find it interesting that the PC players are whining about too many patches and updates, and Console players are whining cause they are starved for the level of content/numbers whatever the pc players have.

Further fortifies the fact that haters gonna hate, whiners gonna whine, and the company will only do what they feel is or isn't necessary to drive sales and please most of the people.


i posted another thread that proposed that they do all this happy fun stuff they are doing now, but in about a year's time, get their act together, and release a kind of gold edition that fixes most if not all the issues with the game, and includes everything but the lost shards maps/enemies.

No, I don't have any professional basis or experience for this idea. But i'm a gamer, a patient one. I want my balanced, fun, time consuming money sinks. But i can wait for them and try to voice my opinion along the way without whining, flaming, or otherwise berating the company who is doing this for me.

try it... you might like it