Jonathan Bureau 0 Posted December 24, 2011 With Nightmare Difficulty in mind , What would you upgrade here for a hybrid (dps/builder) Mage I got about 380 Upgrade left in my armors. I spend my point as follow : 120 hero dmg , 120 tower dmg , 91 hero health Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JesusUK 0 Posted December 24, 2011 Firstly i would recommend not being a hybrid because for nightmare it needs to be maximised. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tyhan 0 Posted December 24, 2011 Firstly i would recommend not being a hybrid because for nightmare it needs to be maximised. What about when you take into account sheer diminishing returns AND the fact that you go miles over the the soft caps with the stats available there? To the point that a hybrid could be pulling 90% the DPS of a true DPS and have defenses that are stronger with them out than a true tower has without the tower character being out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChickenBroccoli 0 Posted December 24, 2011 I like having tons of HP. It scales well with my high resistances. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonathan Bureau 0 Posted December 24, 2011 So hum , any more thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whosisilove 0 Posted December 24, 2011 sorry to say but mage hp scale is very low... 90%resist with only 2k hp i don't even think ucan take a hit in nm from a orge.... probbly die in 1 hit lol. i have a mage i rather stick to tower build. :S True everyone say mages have super high DPS (marco program) but if u gonna die in 1 hit u really don't do DPS at all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whosisilove 0 Posted December 24, 2011 sorry to say but mage hp scale is very low... 90%resist with only 2k hp i don't even think ucan take a hit in nm from a orge.... probbly die in 1 hit lol. i have a mage i rather stick to tower build. :S True every say mages have super high DPS (marco problem) but if u gonna die in 1 hit u really don't do DPS at all Firstly i would recommend not being a hybrid because for nightmare it needs to be maximised. with weapon fully upgraded into base dmg u still put out a decent amount of DPS and u can fully upgrade into tower. to much Wikipedia , Stop going there XD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonathan Bureau 0 Posted December 24, 2011 i got 10k hp in nm , but this can be upgraded as i said i have 380+ upgrades left. What i am wondering is Should i go with more tower health or attack speed maybe? is it really worth getting 1000 tower damage whats the best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kor 0 Posted December 25, 2011 as towerdmg and attackrate have an interrelation u shouldnt leave attackrate too much behind - every point spent in towerdmg amplifies every point attackrate. i read somewhere a 5/3 ratio should be good. i guess you know the following but just in case.. every point you spent is worth less than the point before. i dont know if they changed the formulas with last patch to adjust it to the bigger statvalues but it should give an idea how this works even if numbers are maybe not correct. http://dungeondefenders.wikia.com/wiki/Stat_Progression_Graphs just a thought. im not progressed enough in NM to give you absolute numbers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacPimpin 0 Posted December 25, 2011 Do not underestimate the value of a decent amount of hero health in the mages case, all I can share without being hunted down and killed by the mage guild. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cliffahead 0 Posted December 25, 2011 a dead app is bad dps. my opinion: get more hero health, since as you know, hero health scales terribly with app health. i'm *guessing* u're gonna need at least another 200 hero health to have any form of survivability. btw, those 90% resist, what are they in nightmare? it's a 0.5 multiplier. as for tower attack/tower attack rate ratio, it's 4:3 for best, not 5:3 as suggested by someone previously. that said, i think u need to up ur tower attack a little. 600+ tower health is ok, 600+ tower radius is overkill. is there a choice for u to swap out any piece of gear? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kor 0 Posted December 26, 2011 as for tower attack/tower attack rate ratio, it's 4:3 for best, not 5:3 as suggested by someone previously. i was the someone :). didnt do the math myself just tried to remember sth i read. but good to know its 4:3 then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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