Patch 7.15 Discussion

Well, I think one could safely say that this is a compromise between Trendy and the playerbase on the issue of no respawns in NM UMF. They seem to want a no respawn mode associated with NM UMF and players raised hell when they put it in. So they're giving us what we wanted and keeping what they want as an even more challenging game type.

I can certainly give a nod to the better loot for those able to do this HC mode as well.

I don't really have an issue with the mode/concept/idea to be honest, and i'll still probably do it... but I do have issues with even better loot coming out AGAIN, and another mode being added to a mode that's not finished?

It's just like icing a cake that hasn't been baked yet.

Will decreasing the size of traps also decrease the damage area accordingly, or will we be able to have powerful, high-radius explosive traps with a very small trigger spot?

Will decreasing the size of traps also decrease the damage area accordingly, or will we be able to have powerful, high-radius explosive traps with a very small trigger spot?

I believe it just has something to do with placing auras/traps in certain places on maps where the spawn/crystal prevents you to place them due to having a high tower range stat (with myth items and all coming out). So I doubt the radius toggle will affect your damage (as that would nerf your stats too), but of course it'll affect your trigger range I guess (it'd be like toggling your hero's tower range stat lol).

The trap retains its original blast radius, it's only the activation radius which gets adjusted downwards. So yeah, tiny bombs with BIG BOOM :D

-Jer

[quote]* Added optional Hardcore Nightmare Mode, no respawns allowed during Combat phase (but you don't lose until your core is destroyed). Yields slightly better loot & more XP than regular Nightmare Mode, and later further rewards.[/quote]

Does that mean your gonna remove no respawns allowed during Combat phase in nm uberfest?

Hardcore Nightmare mode?
What? Really?

Yes. Because players like this aren't challenged enough.

did survival get messed with?

I cleared alchemy lab hard survival in 7.12a with 3 level 60s wave 25 had some 40K hp assassins.

tonight i tried clearing it on easy with some friends and on wave 18 I noticed 150K hp assassins and 155 hp archers

Do placed auras/traps retain their 'size setting' after they're built, or are we able to build smaller ones to fit in tight spaces and then expand them after they're placed? Like the off-and-on armour trick (but hopefully without any health reduction).

115 hours played, only time the game crashed was when they were patching and the servers were down. Might be pc related. My GF has played on a seperate pc with different mobo, card, setup etc and she hasnt crashed yet either.

Run your steam cache verification, it can do wonders for random crashes.

Rotfl. Another wannabe expert. My pc and mac is fine, same with cache.

Do placed auras/traps retain their 'size setting' after they're built, or are we able to build smaller ones to fit in tight spaces and then expand them after they're placed? Like the off-and-on armour trick (but hopefully without any health reduction).

If it was like that, they could just turn off the collision detection.
If you place an aura down as small, it will stay small.

Ogre pathing in UMF2 still needs to be fixed:
http://forums.trendyent.com/showthread.php?36671-Ogre-pathing-in-UMF2-still-bugged

pls TE add level-1 mode , maybe Easy Lv1, Medium Lv10, Hard Lv20, Insane Lv50. Is DD just a farming game?

pls TE add level-1 mode , maybe Easy Lv1, Medium Lv10, Hard Lv20, Insane Lv50. Is DD just a farming game?

ding ding ding! clap clap clap
This game has no depth so the only thing they have left to do is to raise stat caps to keep people playing.
Releasing something riddled with bugs makes people hang in there in anticipation of a fix.

The trap retains its original blast radius, it's only the activation radius which gets adjusted downwards. So yeah, tiny bombs with BIG BOOM :D

Even better to read this! Man, if it works as intended this will be my favourite patch just because of this change. Every item-based stat-up in range made me rage about having less and less places to build traps on certain maps.

pls TE add level-1 mode , maybe Easy Lv1, Medium Lv10, Hard Lv20, Insane Lv50. Is DD just a farming game?

not
forced
to
play.

It is MUCH easier to release a new difficulty than create a new map. The new difficulty can help to maintain the player base until new content arrives.
I think hardcore nightmare can provide the ultimate challenge for hardcores, and no further difficulties will be needed. I would really like to see someone beat HC NM MM Glitter.

Why the 40% reduction in trap/arua range on NM?

Why the 40% reduction in trap/arua range on NM?

I think because even with this change the insane amount of stat makes it perfectly usable.

Question regarding Double respawn time:
Does it apply to single player only? I am asking this, because it is not entirely fun to sit 30 seconds, waiting for respawn in multiplayer.

I think because even with this change the insane amount of stat makes it perfectly usable.

Spiders web towers -> we try to use the most of traps and auras despite the huge HP nerf -> Trendy nerfes the range.

And yeah, we're going to use them anyway because only cheaters can play w/o ensnares and strength drains.

What I'm afraid of is the tower range nerf to follow. Because it feels too good — huge HP, huge range, huge RoF.

Towers are fine the way they are. Auras are still too powerful really, if people are still using almost nothing but auras and traps, something is still wrong. You should be able to use a good collection of all 4 characters throughout the campaign really. Sure each map will have it's specialty but otherwise it should be fairly balanced between builders.

Question regarding Double respawn time:
Does it apply to single player only? I am asking this, because it is not entirely fun to sit 30 seconds, waiting for respawn in multiplayer.

But it is fun in single player?

But it is fun in single player?

Single player doesn't have that long respawn.

Double respawn wait-time in nightmare

* 40% reduction on Trap/Aura effective range on Nightmare

* Increased Nightmare wyvern flight speed by 40%


Strongly disagree with these three changes as wyverns are already impossible to deal with because the only anti-air defenses are towers and they are easily destroyed by spiders. Decreasing the size of auras makes them weaker against anti-air.

Nightmare is already hard. No reason to make it harder IMO. That said, tower builds need a buff. Nerfing traps and auras isn't going to make people use already ineffective towers. It's just going to make sure that nothing is effective.

Why the 40% reduction in trap/arua range on NM?

Agreed. I think that this will be the straw that broke the perverbial camel's back for me.

SUrvival - Strategy only scales incorrect on Mist. map - Wave 24 nightmare has like 1/25 godly items only.

Mist survival mix mode sacles incorrect after wave 20, loot goes into -100.

Reqrds in tavern is bugged, and has either -100 in all stats or like 25 upgrades.


Stupid things that should have been fixed a loooonggg time ago