Lukums 0 Posted December 16, 2011 Hey guys, After 1 solid hour of testing nightmare modes. I've decided to quit while I wait for a nerf on all levels. Let me explain. I have the BEST gear, I have the BEST setups and as I'm aware you can't expect insane builds to hold on nightmare granted this is just insane. You CAN'T solo any level, if you die you get camped by spiders ( which then don't allow you to attack ) 1 shot from any mob will 1 shot kill you. We managed, to get to wave 11 of halloween nightmare but spiders were over come us. If my friends and I can't do this I hate what the majority of the public will think... Nightmare is there to be INSANELY HARD - most games, in nightmare mode will ONE SHOT YOU anyway this is not my complaint, my complaint is we have the best gear and the best setups but still manage to get 1-2 waves in uber fest nightmare mode. 500 hp aura's drop within seconds, traps with 400 hp - 800 damage does nothing. Dose anyone share this fustration because how I see it, I can't improve my gear by running nightmare simply because it's IMPOSSIBLE to do so. I expect more hacking, more cheating in the next coming days to combat this feet. This is only my 2 cents, I'm not raging at trendy or the game dev's I'm simply saying that at the moment it's impossible to do so. Luke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dan 0 Posted December 16, 2011 I think i've wasted my 30 bucks for this ****. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phanta 0 Posted December 16, 2011 Thank you for confirming that they are spot on with the difficulty. Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NVXE 0 Posted December 16, 2011 Finally a good challenge, I approve! I'm personally glad that we don't have that (setup a build and faceroll keyboard for easy win) anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ceron 0 Posted December 16, 2011 Instagibs are very gimmicky. Trash mobs being able to instagib you is beyond bad game design. To argue that trash mobs instagibbing you is a good thing is stupid. There's no counter play other than dodging every attack for the entire round. This game gets further and further away from its tower defense roots with every patch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kongen2007 0 Posted December 16, 2011 Too bad the game went from TD with rpg elements to an action third person wannabe rpg with TD element to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonathan Bureau 0 Posted December 16, 2011 I dont think i made a good thing buying this dlc , its ridiculously hard. Like OP state I have the best gear pre 7.13 and no way in hell i can beat nightmare .... that is just bull**** Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zephro 0 Posted December 16, 2011 I really don't see any way atm to complete UMF nightmare since your damage is gimped beyond belief and you have to kill 7 mil hp ogres on the first wave alone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lukums 0 Posted December 16, 2011 I'm continuing, so far. Summit Insane - wave 8 NIGHTMARE orges don't get slowed, you do 3k dps on a 2.65mill orge. Spiders spawn camp. The build remains strong but the dps dealing is far too low. Halloween Insane wave 10 - Same deal build is strong, aura's get hammered but it is possible to keep up, birds are the issue here hard to keep them off crystals with no anti air towers, ps: anti air towers are useless in nightmare mode as spiders target them and down them in about 3-4 seconds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adzicents 0 Posted December 16, 2011 Stop trying to do the hardest levels then? Have you even tried doing the levels BEFORE that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lukums 0 Posted December 16, 2011 Stop trying to do the hardest levels then? Have you even tried doing the levels BEFORE that? I've done all levels on insane, with no issues. Yes most are hard but mainly a face role keyboard win. I agree we needed a challenge sure, but what I'm saying is most of us have 7.12b gear and there is 0 chance of completing nightmare modes as they stand with good communication on ventrilo/ts3 for example. I will expect a nerf forthcoming, but somehow this isn't shocking I knew we would get another fail patch... same thing they did with uber fest, 0 testing lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tweex 0 Posted December 16, 2011 Only 1 hour? Don't you think it's a bit premature to be demanding nerfs already. TE said that the new mode was going to be very tough and people would be crying if they could complete it all with pre-dlc gear, even if it the best. Give it some time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Graphix 0 Posted December 16, 2011 Only 1 hour? Don't you think it's a bit premature to be demanding nerfs already. TE said that the new mode was going to be very tough and people would be crying if they could complete it all with pre-dlc gear, even if it the best. Give it some time. My God there are people that know what i mean. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zephro 0 Posted December 16, 2011 If only they didn't trivialise certain stats with the new difficulty. As of now having max resists and 60k hp is worthless, since you get one-shotted by anything anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MokadoPT 0 Posted December 16, 2011 Problem is....they boost the mobs...but they nerf us. Shoots that do 20k now doing 3k. OH lets give them a challenge, we uber the mobs and we nerf the heroes. Done, now lets make some profit with it. Dammet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Graphix 0 Posted December 16, 2011 If only they didn't trivialise certain stats with the new difficulty. As of now having max resists and 60k hp is worthless, since you get one-shotted by anything anyway. I don't see how this is true at all, I just completed Throne room on Nightmare with 3 of my friends and most of us (not the App) could soak 1-2 Assassin / Bombers. My Rangers has 33,258 Hp so...Problem is....they boost the mobs...but they nerf us. Shoots that do 20k now doing 3k. OH lets give them a challenge, we uber the mobs and we nerf the heroes. Done, now lets make some profit with it. Dammet They said it was going to be hard, and yes to be honest it is Throne Room boos with 4 people had 68 million HP we killed it and i got a 25^ M-32. Still was THE MOST EPIC boss fight i've had since playing DunDef and that was worth it for me to be able to do that with nerfed dmg and being hit like a truck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lukums 0 Posted December 16, 2011 Not being rude, but it's funny that people with hacked gear can't even do it lols, 150 weapons 120 armour... you know something is wrong here. Guess wait and see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Graphix 0 Posted December 16, 2011 Not being rude, but it's funny that people with hacked gear can't even do it lols, 150 weapons 120 armour... you know something is wrong here. Guess wait and see. I without a doubt know that there are people hacking as it happens on EVERY GAME, but like my gear (mostly 8 man UMF) i have a CT with 100^ and thats been doing me wonders so far, Though i have noticed and i will admit its seems that nightmare is a TAD unfair to close range attackers as they cant survive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lukums 0 Posted December 16, 2011 You would honestly have to dodge everything, we made it to last wave of halloween nightmare.. and it's too bloody hard with spider-lings with a 3 second stun.. and slow.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
braveturtle 8 Posted December 16, 2011 You see though, you guys DID make it to last wave. Just because you have not been able to master a map in one day is not necessarily a bad thing... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ceemeeir 0 Posted December 16, 2011 I don't see how this is true at all, I just completed Throne room on Nightmare with 3 of my friends and most of us (not the App) could soak 1-2 Assassin / Bombers. My Rangers has 33,258 Hp so... The difference is mobs get multiple times stronger after that map, while your gear caps at 90% resist, which gets nerfed to ~55%. Even a single orc 1shots me on Hollow UMF. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grienne54 0 Posted December 16, 2011 admittedly I would like to see an adjustment to the spiderlings. I think however that they have shifted to focus to towers ergo the better concept may be to focus leaving ur builders out with relatively ok dps gear but tower focus? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Subnuclear 0 Posted December 16, 2011 The Hero Ping Pong is enough to make me glad i did not buy the DLC. nobody likes playing in a pin ball machine while trying to melee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grienne54 0 Posted December 16, 2011 at the same time. there does need to be feedback m8 on the content etc. My only real desired adjustment atm are spiders. The constant webbing is a bit much and needs some adjustment and the resists as well but less concerned about that and more about the spiders ... :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rzrsk8rm 0 Posted December 16, 2011 voice opinions (whether about the game, or someones opinion) politely. Also, please... Don't just complain. Give some feedback if you're going to take the time to say... omgz this is too difficult. Change your tactics, change your gear, change something. Obviously whatever you're doing isn't going to get you though the most difficult level yet. Work your way up to it. It is possible. Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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