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Oh wow. Okay. Color me excited. Can we expect the Challenge rewards to be similarly itemized? That 60^ Nightmare Blasticus has me a bit worried.

Oh man, I just realized. 120^+ Einhorn's Furnace Poker. I need me one of those.

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120+ Soul Focusers?!

O.o
Will be grinding this level for a long time.
Soul Focuser is easily the most useful gun IMO.

Shooting through everything = win
Not being lightning damage like the VW = WIN WIN WIN

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Mind if I can ask for the setup you used to solo it?


I would imagine Spike Blockades plus auras and traps. Anything other than those is a liability because of the spiders.

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I would imagine Spike Blockades plus auras and traps. Anything other than those is a liability because of the spiders.


Spikes are liabilities too... Mine have 26k health on nightmare and they still get like 4-hit by ogres.

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I don't see how it's possible after having gone through it just now, final boss has 13 mil damage.. your damage is nerfed to hell, you get raped by constant barrage of spiders.. all the while ogres beating the CRAP out of defenses, my blockades have 58k health, and even sitting in a str drain aura you get destroyed by ogres. and nowhere on the map is safe from spiders although maybe i'm missing some trick to the boss? like when the towers all attack him is there a way to get bonus damage

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I never used mage towers (only magic barriers) nor squire blockade. the only thing I placed there are traps and auras and the common 1 DU magic blockades. almost the same set up as mix mode insane surival. but had to move most traps to surround the crystal cause thats where most of the spiders drop. also helps damage the 13m hp boss. If you have a good app guardian that is. "And my magic barriers dont die easily when combined with a proximity trap and strength aura"

fun fact: if you place four traps near on each of the electricity antennas. during the boss fight the traps sets of whenever these antennas are susceptible to damage. destroying them instanly and shocking the boss once all four antennas gets destroyed. so you dont need to run arround and shooting those atennas, the traps will destroy them for you.

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I find that the spiders are most difficult in the first couple of waves while still getting everything up. If you focus on your traps and auras first, and sit in a corner of the map (so that the spiders have to run through it all to reach you) then theyre usually dead before they get to you, and you should have no problem staying alive long enough for everything to get built.

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nice wep, but dang that base dmg is so low lol
it would take like 20+ upgrades just to get it past 200 lol
but nice to see someone beat nightmare mode !

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nice wep, but dang that base dmg is so low lol
it would take like 20+ upgrades just to get it past 200 lol
but nice to see someone beat nightmare mode !


Ok...so net result is a 100^ weap with 200 base dmg? I'd go for that! (I understand what you mean though ;)

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I've beaten a couple of times alrdy moving on to throne room got an idea im hoping works heh


you should post your setup or create a topic on the guides section to help out others :D

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also heads up there a chance u'll get one with alot of upgrades i've done 5 total only got 2 with over 100^ just figure i throw that out there.

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i'm tooo lazy howeva use same build as mix mode survival but i use the spike blockades with a 500 tower health stat squire (look for +40 tower health stat armor and just buff it all the way up. I also place a heal aura in middle with strength aura on the left side to help keep u from dying so much. Make sure ur proxy traps are touching the elec towers that go off and i use a genie the first few rounds in order to upgrade as much **** as possible. And happy hunting:P

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I tried doing alch lag (solo) and I make it to the boss... my only problem is the ogres... the boss 1 shots me (and so do spiders because you can't move / shoot) and then the ogres kill the crystal.... Have only made it to boss having 1/2 HP.

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Hmmh so alch lab nightmare loot is randomed like between 40-125^ or something? Cause i got 95-125^ loot at first release patch of 7.13, now after patch 41^ trash. I mean stats overall are still same, but damn the up value differences are huge, then again i quite enjoyed old pre superloot when boss & challenge rewards had potential to be best. At least until someone manages to crack open mix mode & UMF nightmare. ;)

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Lol i cant even do deeper wells on nightmare with 4 people, the spiders make this literally imposible, they slow you down WAYYYYYYY too much and the fact that even with max resistances mobs hit you hard as hell.

I just don't see how nightmare is even possible unless you have full perfect uber gear.

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Lol i cant even do deeper wells on nightmare with 4 people, the spiders make this literally imposible, they slow you down WAYYYYYYY too much and the fact that even with max resistances mobs hit you hard as hell.

I just don't see how nightmare is even possible unless you have full perfect uber gear.


I tested to upgrade one of the mythical items and they seem to still cap at 30%, ofc i dont yet have full set, so dunno if you gain more than 55-56% resistances with them unlike the old gear, they are still same old set afterall with higher stats. Warping core pack has sets that gain 33% unlike normal sets 25% bonus, maybe that gear becomes more needed, while still cant see them beign strong enough for NM and its limited to only those 4 maps and 1 reward each run, not to mention the insane rewards lost hands down to mix mode or UMF armors. ;>

I can see only a lot of deaths on NM, those spiders already my hated enemy, having hard time dodging them even with app while i have almost instant upgrade & repair. ;)

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gotta stun him like before i would assume and grind the crap outta him a bunch of times.

Obvisouly it's possible =)

Can't wait to try myself later ;P

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Lol i cant even do deeper wells on nightmare with 4 people, the spiders make this literally imposible, they slow you down WAYYYYYYY too much and the fact that even with max resistances mobs hit you hard as hell.

I just don't see how nightmare is even possible unless you have full perfect uber gear.


The spiders are no issue to me, it's the ogres being able to get past all defenses uncontested, and then when that one ogre decides "No, I will not aggro onto you" and kills the crystal in two hits....

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