No jump no jutsu...

I had a bug report on this a while back,, but can't find it on the bug site anymore.

But the answer I got was that it was intended..

This issue is at the point to where I do NOT play my SQUIRE anymore AT ALL...

It feels so clunky, punishes me for wanting to use speed boost, falling to death over and over, because, who knows?

And this is not just an issue for the Squire, it seems to have been applied to almost every single ability in the game..

As a result I don't have fun playing my Squire anymore, I have to  FIGHT to move around... 

Can I use my speed boost right now? No, I gotta jump in 1 second so I can't..

Can I fit in a sword beam attack right here? No, if i use that I will not be able to jump over that cliff.

I don't understand why or how this was even accepted as a change.

It has been here for months.

I hate it, and I don't play heroes I loved before because of it..



basically you're saying that jump was added to the skill/abilities global-cooldown when before it was not ?

It greatly bummed me out when I noticed you can't jump while casting anymore. I used that a ton on the EV2, walking towards a pack, clicking a Gravity Bot and instantly jumping away and shooting towards it to detonate it, which is also great on the EV2 with her increased air control. In fact I really just don't play her anymore, this issue is part of that, but not only it. It also annoys me on the Monk because I actually have to stop in place to use Heroic Wave when approaching a boss.

I personally think this should be removed. It really subtracts from the fun to be had while playing various heroes, and as far as I know it doesn't prevent any unwanted interactions. These kinds of changes, from my experience, seem to often be put in place as to fix other bugs, but I don't ever recall any problem with casting and jumping, the ones that are out there are completely unaffected by this change anyway.

Let us jump. Jumping is a lot of fun and it is not overpowered.

It feels clunky and retro. It's no bueno.

@ram1024 quote:

basically you're saying that jump was added to the skill/abilities global-cooldown when before it was not ?

Well there's no global CD here. But yes, before you could jump right after an ability.

Just imagine they overnight add a landing animation after every jump. Make it a good second long.

Then you understand how it feels to play a lot DD2 heroes now.

There was 1 exploit with jumping cancelling animation, that I reported. But that could of been fixed in way simpler terms. Though I don't know if that was the cause of this change.

I miss my Squire...

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Will this be fixed? So I can start buying your Steam Packs again?

And maybe,.. even start playing the game again 

I seem to have miss lead some people, and I'm sorry about that...

I stated this: 

>> " This issue is at the point to where I do NOT play my SQUIRE anymore AT ALL..."

But this turned  out to be a lie...

It is actually at the point where I don't even  want to play the game itself at ALL... anymore...

Not just the Squire, most of the heroes suffer from the issue, some are worse than others..

this is sort of off topic but i hattteeeeeeeee the ev2 jump. i die multiple times cause she moves so fast in the air. it annoys me when trying to jump onto a railing or something similar and it takes me like at least a few jumps to actually land on it. i usually have to switch to a different character and then switch to ev2 once i’m on the thing i want to be on

It's a pity something like this is making you feel you can't play. I'm not sure why it's the case, but I can't say I've ever noticed it nor is it an issue for me when I play Squire or any hero...

I noticed this as well whilst playing the squire as dps, have died countless times because of this. Was not aware they added jump to global cooldown.

It doesn't really bother me at all that you can't jump while doing skills but in a way it kinda makes sense. 

But don't you think it's

@Little Magic Hat quote:

It's a pity something like this is making you feel you can't play. I'm not sure why it's the case, but I can't say I've ever noticed it nor is it an issue for me when I play Squire or any hero...

I'm happy that you pity me, not sure how to interpenetrate that. Do you pity me for not being able to have fun because of it? Or because you simply are better than me, and can AFK maps and not experience the pain?

If you took 20 seconds out of your life, which I would respect, to watch a ***ty video, of why you would pity me.

Maybe you would see why I have stopped playing certain heroes.

If the video itself cannot explain why I have stopped playing a multitude of heroes, then we have nothing further to discuss.

This issue itself is not the sole reason I don't play anymore, but it is a part of it.

But lets keep that for another thread..

@Partek quote:

These kinds of changes, from my experience, seem to often be put in place as to fix other bugs, but I don't ever recall any problem with casting and jumping, the ones that are out there are completely unaffected by this change anyway.

Let us jump. Jumping is a lot of fun and it is not overpowered.

I got a feeling it was my fault, but I guess TE took the cheap route and just disabled jump while casting ALL the abilities instead of fixing ONE of them...

(probably are more bugs like these, but they don't justify neutering the gameplay for 99% of the players)

(All these bombs got a set timer)

(Why not just set a max number per player?)

 I did watch the video and that's how I based my answer. You were demonstrating provoke and attempting to jump obstacles simultaneously. It doesn't work as it did or as we'd like it,  but it really doesn't feel like an insurmountable issue to adapt to and that is why I don't really understand how it's such a significant problem that's ruining your enjoyment of the game to this extent. I find the situation pitiful, not you.

I would also like to see them undo the change but how likely is it really to happen? 

@PandynatorDD quote:

@Partek quote:

These kinds of changes, from my experience, seem to often be put in place as to fix other bugs, but I don't ever recall any problem with casting and jumping, the ones that are out there are completely unaffected by this change anyway.

Let us jump. Jumping is a lot of fun and it is not overpowered.

I got a feeling it was my fault, but I guess TE took the cheap route and just disabled jump while casting ALL the abilities instead of fixing ONE of them...

(probably are more bugs like these, but they don't justify neutering the gameplay for 99% of the players)

(All these bombs got a set timer)

(Why not just set a max number per player?)

Yes because jumping is a core survival skill of 99% of the player base ;p

@Martin Arcainess quote:

Yes because jumping is a core survival skill of 99% of the player base ;p

I was thinking the same while reading this thread that was resurrected by a powerful necromancer.

@Little Magic Hat quote:

 I did watch the video and that's how I based my answer. You were demonstrating provoke and attempting to jump obstacles simultaneously. It doesn't work as it did or as we'd like it,  but it really doesn't feel like an insurmountable issue to adapt to and that is why I don't really understand how it's such a significant problem that's ruining your enjoyment of the game to this extent. I find the situation pitiful, not you.

I would also like to see them undo the change but how likely is it really to happen? 

Yea not sure, personally I have vowed to not spend a dime on the the game till they change it. And as the DD2 addict I am, I've still kept it.  Used to buy 90% of the DLC they released, but I've totally skipped the last two rounds. 

As for the fun factor? Or rather annoyance factor.

I like to play efficiently, when I got to hug a 20cm wall for close to a second, it hugely annoys me.

Trying to hit stuck air mobs? Well I can't cast then jump as I used to.

Not gonna bother go over this again, I will try my best to not buy anything till this is fixed.

Can't promise I can keep that, but I've managed to not buy anything from the last 2(?) steam pack pushes, where I used to buy them all..

TE can check my play time and look how its mainly Gunwitch, since its the least impacted hero of the issue. Though she also is impacted. 

Anyway, this is not the reason I stopped playing at all, was just a nice kick.

I mean if the moment to moment game play annoys me?

Why would it make me feel better about other decisions I feel slightly annoyed by?

@PandynatorDD quote:

lawlta

Will this be fixed? So I can start buying your Steam Packs again?

And maybe,.. even start playing the game again 

Lawlta loves getting tagged into threads because he obviously doesn't read any threads where he isn't. :P