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As a player who paid real cash for EV2, How do I get a refund.

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I purchased her as she was the only viable way to build in c7 without getting stomped constantly, now with her nerf coming out, I don't even know why i bought her.

If the nerf is going to hit her as hard as they are making it out to be (shes useless) than I personally feel ripped off and am willing to give her up as a hero for my money back, this is literally a kick in the teeth to people who paid money for her

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@|~ICE~|SpecterFreak quote:

I purchased her as she was the only viable way to build in c7 without getting stomped constantly, now with her nerf coming out, I don't even know why i bought her.

If the nerf is going to hit her as hard as they are making it out to be (shes useless) than I personally feel ripped off and am willing to give her up as a hero for my money back, this is literally a kick in the teeth to people who paid money for her

So let's get this right you paid real money for a character purely because they were op but now you fear that character will no longer be easy mode you want a refund.

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EV2 will still be perfectly viable.  Her WM was never the best tower in the game, it was just the best for farming.  Heck, her proton beam is better for damage if you learn where and how to place it, especially since it scales so amazingly with upgrades.  The WM will still be great for farming, even with a minor debuff, because of how quickly they can be packed.  It might be slightly less viable when climbing the ranks, but there are currently better free methods, and many of those are even getting buffed.  The amount of power you have access too will not go down.  All you have to do is watch video after video of other players in C7 to see that EV2 is not even needed for C7 now.  People use her to be lazy.  Don't get me wrong, I use EV2 now, and she is great and strong, and it's great to be lazy, but Trendy is trying to encourage variety and keep the game from getting monotonous.  I say good for Trendy.  Finally, let's realize that we don't actually have hard numbers yet, just a promise from Trendy (in the dev stream) that WM will still be viable, and its nerf is comparatively small compared to the buff other towers are getting.  How about we wait and see what Trendy has in mind for balancing?

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@|~ICE~|SpecterFreak quote:

I purchased her as she was the only viable way to build in c7 without getting stomped constantly, now with her nerf coming out, I don't even know why i bought her.

If the nerf is going to hit her as hard as they are making it out to be (shes useless) than I personally feel ripped off and am willing to give her up as a hero for my money back, this is literally a kick in the teeth to people who paid money for her

So let's get this right you paid real money for a character purely because they were op but now you fear that character will no longer be easy mode you want a refund.

I don't own her and only recently started playing some again since alpha so have not reached C7, yet. Is she actually OP? The way OP and other poster indicated (and you didn't deny it, either) she is mandatory for C7. If she is actually required for C7 then OP may have a viable point. The content shouldn't be hard locked behind a mandatory purchase and if that was their bait to get people to buy her then nerf her the company is in the wrong (shady stuff is not something new to Trendy sadly but may not apply to this situation so feel free to correct the claim she is mandatory for C7 if untrue).

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@|~ICE~|SpecterFreak quote:

I purchased her as she was the only viable way to build in c7 without getting stomped constantly, now with her nerf coming out, I don't even know why i bought her.

If the nerf is going to hit her as hard as they are making it out to be (shes useless) than I personally feel ripped off and am willing to give her up as a hero for my money back, this is literally a kick in the teeth to people who paid money for her

So let's get this right you paid real money for a character purely because they were op but now you fear that character will no longer be easy mode you want a refund.

I don't own her and only recently started playing some again since alpha so have not reached C7, yet. Is she actually OP? The way OP and other poster indicated (and you didn't deny it, either) she is mandatory for C7. If she is actually required for C7 then OP may have a viable point. The content shouldn't be hard locked behind a mandatory purchase and if that was their bait to get people to buy her then nerf her the company is in the wrong (shady stuff is not something new to Trendy sadly but may not apply to this situation so feel free to correct the claim she is mandatory for C7 if untrue).

She is not at all mandatory. You could use PDT's, Earthshatter towers, flamethrower towers, and more for C7. Her weapon manufactures are just really strong and make things easier. They're not needed though to pass C7.

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EV2 will still be perfectly viable.  Her WM was never the best tower in the game, it was just the best for farming.  Heck, her proton beam is better for damage if you learn where and how to place it, especially since it scales so amazingly with upgrades.  The WM will still be great for farming, even with a minor debuff, because of how quickly they can be packed.  It might be slightly less viable when climbing the ranks, but there are currently better free methods, and many of those are even getting buffed.  The amount of power you have access too will not go down.  All you have to do is watch video after video of other players in C7 to see that EV2 is not even needed for C7 now.  People use her to be lazy.  Don't get me wrong, I use EV2 now, and she is great and strong, and it's great to be lazy, but Trendy is trying to encourage variety and keep the game from getting monotonous.  I say good for Trendy.  Finally, let's realize that we don't actually have hard numbers yet, just a promise from Trendy (in the dev stream) that WM will still be viable, and its nerf is comparatively small compared to the buff other towers are getting.  How about we wait and see what Trendy has in mind for balancing?

Only using WM, no AA even, you can speed build and speed run 4 party c7, using any other towers besides WM you have around a 50% success rate with a full end c7 gear party, its stupid

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@|~ICE~|SpecterFreak quote:

I purchased her as she was the only viable way to build in c7 without getting stomped constantly, now with her nerf coming out, I don't even know why i bought her.

If the nerf is going to hit her as hard as they are making it out to be (shes useless) than I personally feel ripped off and am willing to give her up as a hero for my money back, this is literally a kick in the teeth to people who paid money for her

So let's get this right you paid real money for a character purely because they were op but now you fear that character will no longer be easy mode you want a refund.

I don't own her and only recently started playing some again since alpha so have not reached C7, yet. Is she actually OP? The way OP and other poster indicated (and you didn't deny it, either) she is mandatory for C7. If she is actually required for C7 then OP may have a viable point. The content shouldn't be hard locked behind a mandatory purchase and if that was their bait to get people to buy her then nerf her the company is in the wrong (shady stuff is not something new to Trendy sadly but may not apply to this situation so feel free to correct the claim she is mandatory for C7 if untrue).

I will make this short and simple EV2 is not mandatory for c7 but she makes it a lot easier.

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I somehow understand the frustration because the game has already been released and a character that has been released for quite a while is not expected to be rebalanced. There are dev logs, messages etc. from the devs/community managers that there will still be a lot of rebalances though.

...and as some other people have already stated: she is still great - it is just not as easy anymore and I think the most difficult part about this is that you are forced to change a strategy you're already used to.

Personally I'm glad there are still rebalances on heroes when necessary.


Maybe TE will be able to avoid this kind of confusion/customer frustration be make proper balance of purchasable content a priority.

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@|~ICE~|SpecterFreak quote:

I purchased her as she was the only viable way to build in c7 without getting stomped constantly, now with her nerf coming out, I don't even know why i bought her.

If the nerf is going to hit her as hard as they are making it out to be (shes useless) than I personally feel ripped off and am willing to give her up as a hero for my money back, this is literally a kick in the teeth to people who paid money for her

Maybe wait and see before starting to act so entitled?

And no, you cannot get refund on gems or DLC.

Maybe you should of read that before paying for it, if your going to act so butt hurt over a balance change, that is frankly needed.

It will still be strong, probably similar to flame aura. Hopefully with upgrade tiers so you can't just put it down and forget about it.

I think if they also made it only hit ground units it would be in good spot. As it has no visual representation of actually being some sort of aura, it would make sense for it to only work on ground units like the fissures from lavamancer.(Which is stronger than FA vs ground units). If they buff fissures in this patch, they will be ridiculous. 

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I mean I read the patch preview post and I didn't see anything in there about a nerf to WM. What I did read is a fix for an exploit with a shard that goes in the WM. I might have missed something but I didn't see any change to the damage that it will output, unless you count the extra damage you can get if you are using the exploit.

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@|~ICE~|SpecterFreak quote:

I purchased her as she was the only viable way to build in c7 without getting stomped constantly, now with her nerf coming out, I don't even know why i bought her.

If the nerf is going to hit her as hard as they are making it out to be (shes useless) than I personally feel ripped off and am willing to give her up as a hero for my money back, this is literally a kick in the teeth to people who paid money for her

As everyone else said, it's not a nerf.. you used a build that was obviously a glitch. Time to dust off the brain and use it to figure out a new build. There are many ways to still use just EV2 to win, but it's not necessary and it never was. 

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@|~ICE~|SpecterFreak quote:

I purchased her as she was the only viable way to build in c7 without getting stomped constantly, now with her nerf coming out, I don't even know why i bought her.

If the nerf is going to hit her as hard as they are making it out to be (shes useless) than I personally feel ripped off and am willing to give her up as a hero for my money back, this is literally a kick in the teeth to people who paid money for her

Things dont stay op for long with any dev considering balance so you should have known it is at best a limited time advantage you spent your money on if it really only was because of her being called op.

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Only using WM, no AA even, you can speed build and speed run 4 party c7, using any other towers besides WM you have around a 50% success rate with a full end c7 gear party, its stupid

You may be right (I am plowing through C5 now), but I have heard many conflicting reports on this, and I kind of doubt your assessment for the following simple reason.  Flame auras + WM is better than WM, so of course you have as much success if not more.  I've seen plenty of flame aura only runs for C7 too.  Are flame auras really not good enough in your experience?  I have also heard people claim that a full c7 gear party can do it without any towers, since the DPS you can do at that point is ridiculous.  The only other thing I would add is that if the current hardest difficulty is hard (that is, C7 with four people so that the mobs have the most health), that doesn't seem like a flaw to me.  I would guess that soloing C7 can be done with much more success?

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@|~ICE~|SpecterFreak quote:

I purchased her as she was the only viable way to build in c7 without getting stomped constantly, now with her nerf coming out, I don't even know why i bought her.

If the nerf is going to hit her as hard as they are making it out to be (shes useless) than I personally feel ripped off and am willing to give her up as a hero for my money back, this is literally a kick in the teeth to people who paid money for her

so first ev2 is also a really nice dps hero

by fixing the shard bug for weapon manufacturers shes not going to be useless

i have no problems running c7 even when not building ev2 stuff if its the only way for u to not get stomped then u either have to low equip or else ur build is bad


so for how long have u played the ev2? u buy a hero play her and then once they do some fixes or balance changes u want a refund?

are u like that in every game u play?

u should try mobas or so with hero changes every other week and then cry for refunds of the heroes / skins u got since they nerfed an ability

the constant income of tickets would make the support laugh

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Don't worry. WM wasn't even her best tower, it was proton beam if you knew how to use it. And also, I don't think you CAN get a refund, so don't bother.

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@|~ICE~|SpecterFreak quote:

I purchased her as she was the only viable way to build in c7 without getting stomped constantly, now with her nerf coming out, I don't even know why i bought her.

If the nerf is going to hit her as hard as they are making it out to be (shes useless) than I personally feel ripped off and am willing to give her up as a hero for my money back, this is literally a kick in the teeth to people who paid money for her

I have no idea why would someone paid real money to buy a new hero when you could just do that with Defender Medals. To me, gems are like treasure to get costumes, tower skins and premium pets.

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@|~ICE~|SpecterFreak quote:

I purchased her as she was the only viable way to build in c7 without getting stomped constantly, now with her nerf coming out, I don't even know why i bought her.

If the nerf is going to hit her as hard as they are making it out to be (shes useless) than I personally feel ripped off and am willing to give her up as a hero for my money back, this is literally a kick in the teeth to people who paid money for her


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