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[Early Access] Trials: The Endgame Update (19.0) Notes and Discussion

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Greetings Defenders,

Trials: The Endgame Update is now available on PC and PS4! Check out the Landing Page for an overview of the changes.

This update represents our shared vision of the core Dungeon Defenders II gameplay experience. It’s the culmination of two years of new features, bug fixes and conversations with you about where the game should go. As a result, this update is MASSIVE. But it’s also not the end. From here, we’ll continue to expand our endgame with more Chaos tiers, more Shards, more maps, and … well, you’ll just have to wait and see.

On a personal note:  We hope you love this update as much as we loved making it. Many of us gave up our holiday breaks, our nights, and our weekends to make this update a reality. This game is built by the seemingly endless passions of our small team, and with your support, our game will keep growing and growing.

Features and Changes

Chaos Difficulty and the Trials

  • Nightmare is over. Now is the time of CHAOS!

  • This update scratches the surface with five tiers of Chaos, but don’t get too comfortable because we have more Chaos tiers in store. (queue maniacal laugh track)

  • As you descend through the tiers, new threats will appear and combine to lay waste to your heroes and defenses. Following us on social media may or may not give you some indication of what’s to come. (SHAMELESS CROSS PROMOTION!)

  • Chaos is unpredictable and can only be thwarted through conquering the Trials.

  • In the Trials, the Knight Commander assigns you to a defense commensurate with your power. Survive enough Trials at a specific difficulty, and you will accumulate the experience, gear, and resources needed for the Knight Commander to deploy you on even more dangerous fronts.

  • If certain Trials prove to be too much initially, you can perfect your strategies by practicing on any map at any difficulty. Remember, though, that the Trials are the only path to glory, gear, and gold (among other valuables).

Shards:  A New Way to Build Your Hero

  • Goodbye Passives and Skill Spheres; hello Shards!

  • Shards are upgradeable artifacts that slot into your Defense Relics, Armor, and Weapons.

  • Shards give you extra buffs, bonuses and sometimes even new functionality!

  • Most Shards can be moved between gear. No more leaving your Passives behind when you find an upgrade!

  • Defense Relics can hold up to 3 Shards and can only equip Defense Shards.

  • Armor and Weapons can hold up to 2 Shards and can only equip Hero Shards.

  • Shards drop in Victory Chests.

  • Shards can be upgraded directly from the all-new Inventory to further augment your dominance on the battlefield.

  • When Veteran Defenders first login, they’ll find themselves ahead of the game with a complementary bundle of Shards we’re giving all Defenders as a thank you for their patience and support while we polished this update to be something truly special. You’ll also find that all the Skill Spheres you’ve previously purchased have been replaced by a bounty of gold! (Trust us, you’ll need it.)

Ascension: Go Beyond Level 50!

  • How far past 50? Your imagination is your only limit in Ascension. That and the code that comprises the system...

  • With this update, heroes at the level cap will generate account-wide Ascension XP that accrues towards Ascension Points.

  • Ascension Points are invested on a per-hero basis in Ascension Powers that bestow additional bonuses and augmentations.

  • Some Ascension Powers are universal for all heroes; some are unique to each hero.

  • Harder challenges award greater sums of Ascension XP.

  • Multiple Level 50 heroes in your Hero Deck will not grant additional XP.

Defense Relics, Defense Speed & Defense Range

  • Now you can build powerful defenses AND be a fearsome combatant at the same time!

  • All Relics are now Defense Relics and will roll with up to three Defense stats. Armor and Weapons will roll with up to two Hero stats.

  • Heroes can now customize each of their defenses’ strengths individually by attaching a Defense Relic to them.

  • Defense Speed is back as a stat!

  • Defense Range is now available as Shards and as Ascension Powers.

  • Two new Relics are available:  Orbs and Marks. Orbs are for Defense Speed builds, and Marks are for Defense Crit Power builds.

Five New Enemies

  • The Siege Roller was just the beginning. Whatever horrors Chaos brings, rest assured that they will push you to experiment, adapt, and overcome. You will need to achieve perfect hero/defense unity to best what awaits you in the Trials.

New Inventory

  • Everyone (and we mean everyone) is getting a brand-new inventory UI!

  • We’ve streamlined the loot management process by putting more stuff in fewer bags, consolidating item management to a single UI, and bringing hero and item management under one roof.

  • Additionally, we expanded the item sorting and management options to empower you to interact with, compare, and save/sell loot more easily, efficiently, and expediently.

  • Added the ability to lock items on PC and made Locking do what it should have done in the first place on PS4 (oops).

Loot System Upgrades

  • Loot generation has been revamped, reworked and revised. The new system will help you find more upgrades more often.

  • iPWR has been removed. We hope that players will enjoy the new feeling of focusing on our new item systems and stats. Items still generate with stat ranges in each difficulty tier, and some stats reach a maximum cap in each difficulty. Want higher stats? Crank up the difficulty!

  • Now you can enhance your loot (and Shards) without leaving your Inventory (or putting on pants)!

    • Also, no more silly “put 5 pieces of loot in” nonsense. Just upgrade with Gold or Defender Medals!

Hero Changes

Every Ability and Defense has been completely rebalanced, and these changes are more fundamental than just a numbers update. Each Defense now has its own stats, and many have undergone changes that alter their fundamentals so the entire defensive playing field is very different.

Rather than provide a before-and-after stat difference (which would be a bit misleading and very messy due to every defense being modified in several ways), below is a summarized list of the major changes to each hero’s defensive kit. This will include information such as changes to defense lineup, changes to defense roles, and other major high level changes to gameplay.

All Heroes

  • Adjusted all Hero Damage, Critical Damage and Ability Power scaling.

  • Adjusted all Defensive Stat scaling across all Defenses.

  • Blockade towers aggro levels are now equalized. Abyss Lord’s Colossus has a slightly higher aggro value.

  • All normal tower aggro levels reduced to Flamethrower levels. Traps and Auras remain unchanged.

  • 2-Spread and 4-Spread firing solution weapons are disabled from spawning. The only firing solutions are Single, Triple, Penta, Burst Shot, and Scatter Shot.

  • Improved handling when in the air on all Heroes to closer match the Gunwitch.

  • Balanced all Hero swing information to closer match the Squire swings (results in a substantial Monk melee DPS increase).

  • Charge attacks now deal more damage.

Abyss Lord

  • Direct Command now scales with Ability Power instead of Defense Power. (Except Skeletal Orc)

  • Revised basic attack values to improve DPS slightly.

  • Removed AoE effect from secondary attacks.


  • Flameburst Tower has been replaced by Flamethrower Tower.

  • Arcane Barrier now maintains collision when in its deactivated state.

  • Arcane Barrier DU cost increased from 20 to 30.

  • Earthshatter DU cost increased from 50 to 80.

  • Apprentice Flameburst Tower Challenge/Achievement now relies on Flamethrower Tower.


  • Revised core stats to match new melee hero scaling.

  • Revised melee combo multipliers.

  • Reworked Blessing to provide damage reduction instead of an armor buff and updated the description.

  • Revised slow and damage values on Powder Toss.

  • Adjusted Starfall’s damage and Corruption cost.

  • Moss Hornet’s Nest spawns an additional hornet and gains additional Hornet movement speed in Corrupt Form.

  • Slime Pit’s oil applied by Corruption can now be ignited.


  • Anti Gravity Bots, Death From Above and Proton Charge now only scale with Ability Power.

  • Proton Charge heat consumption doubled.

  • Rebalanced heat dissipation values of certain Canister types to be more viable.

  • Reduced secondary attack charge time to better match the audio and VFX.

  • Mortar weapon types now properly do AoE damage.

  • Cleaned up Weapon Manufacturer inspection tooltip.

  • Reduced Reflect Beam DU from 60 to 30 for two nodes, with an additional 10 per node.


  • Removed Hero Damage scaling on abilities.

  • Increased/added Ability Power scaling on abilities.

  • Twice the Price activation cost increased from 60 to 80.

  • Book Drop Broom Power cost increased from 30 to 40.

  • Broom Storm cost increased from 50 to 60.


  • Oil Flask duration reduced.

  • Increased Blaze Balloon DU from 50 to 80.  (Remember that we changed all defense scalars all over the place!)


  • Hero Health refactored to be slightly closer to Squire.

  • Damage resistance decreased slightly to fall in line with other melee heroes.

  • Balanced all Ability costs.

  • Removed innate resource generation.

  • Inflame no longer makes you take more damage while activated.

  • Oil Geyser can now properly combo with fire effects to ignite enemies.

  • Added a Fissure of Embermount 30 DU Cost.

  • Reduced Maw of the Earth Drake DU Cost from 80 to 60.


  • Added double jump.

  • Lightning Aura is now Flame Aura.

  • Serenity Aura has been removed and has had some effects combined with Boost Aura.  Boost Aura now can equip all Serenity Aura shards but does not heal heroes standing within.

  • Lightning Strikes Aura has been added as a base tower at 40 DU.

  • New weapons spawned for Monk will come with one of the new firing solutions (does not affect pre-existing weapons).

  • Lightning Aura Challenge/Achievement now relies on Lightning Strikes Aura.


  • Revised core stats and base health to match new melee hero scaling.

  • All secondary attack firing solutions provide more consistent DPS.

  • Reduced Dark Torment’s DoT and Tower duration.

  • All ability costs revised and Serpent’s Coil now costs 20 DU.

  • Increased arc on Viper’s Fangs and updated decal to show new size.


  • Adjusted ability, hero damage scaling, and base stats to match new melee hero scaling.

  • Reduced mana cost of Sword Beam from 25 to 20.

  • Balanced Light and Heavy damage multipliers to closer match Medium.

  • Increased Training Dummy DU from 20 to 30.

Enemy Changes

Siege Rollers

  • We’re reducing the maximum number of Siege Roller spawns. This applies to both solo and multiplayer matches.

  • Siege Roller rockets can no longer damage the core. The Siege Roller must hit the core with the roller to hurt it.

  • Siege Roller can now be stunned with diminishing returns based on the number of players.

  • The hitbox on the weak point is being adjusted so that melee heroes and certain defenses can hit it more easily.


  • Ogre melee range reduced. This change makes Ogres slightly harder to kite and less likely to miss defenses placed on slopes.

  • Ogre punches are slightly quicker.

Special Enemies

  • Special enemies’ HP / Damage increased substantially to match closer to Ogre category. All special enemies should now present a threat (even Griblok).

  • Tenacity has been rebalanced for them as well. Most enemies have 50% Tenacity. Some have less (Gnash, Lady Orc Berserker). Some have more (Griblok, Tuskar, generic melee meatbags).

Other Changes

  • Rebalanced Campaign to account for all of these changes. We made it slightly harder overall based on your feedback.

  • Updated the Campaign Quest rewards to reflect our new loot changes.

  • Crit chances now display as percentages.

Bug Fixes

  • Fixed all of the Passive and Skill Sphere bugs by removing Passives and Skill Spheres from the game.

  • Fixed all of the old Inventory bugs. Now there are new Inventory bugs to discover! Yay!

  • Fixed all of the Onslaught bugs by...removing Onslaught from the game. We’re seeing a trend here…

  • Honestly, there are so many community-reported bugs that we fixed in this update by virtue of our system changes.

  • Melee goblins now hit towers and cores much more reliably. Be scared. Be very scared.

  • Demon Eye and Eye of Cthulu no longer get knocked back and fall through the world when using knockback or knockup abilities / towers.

  • No longer can G up before the chests show up on Harbinger’s Warship.

  • Fixed a bug where the Lavamancer was able to get stuck on Gates of Dragonfall while submerged.

  • The Create Hero voiceover volume is now properly controlled by the Volume settings in the Options menu.

  • Player names in the Session List will no longer stay at "999" (the default data).

  • Slime Pits no longer glow like the sun in bright areas. Tower base and top are now unlit meaning their lighting will look more even across the board.

  • Fixed collision issues in Dragonfall Sewers.

  • Fixed collision issues in the Ramparts.

  • Okay, we fixed collision issues on all of the maps.

Quick Hits: What Happened To…?

The Skill Sphere System

  • We converted most of our old Skill Spheres into Shards.

  • Some Skill Spheres were turned into Ascension Powers.

  • Some Skill Spheres were removed from the game.

  • Those who’ve purchased Skill Spheres with either Gold or Defender Medals received a Gold refund. Our goal is to make sure that your choice to invest in your hero’s power is translated over into this new system -- you’ll need all the Gold you can get to upgrade your Shards and your Loot.

    • All gold and Defender Medals spent on Spheres will be reimbursed based on a calculated conversion ratio.

    • For this compensation only, every Campaign quest completed will give players 2 Standard Shards per quest. Players who have completed all Campaign quests prior to this update will receive a maximum of 36 Standard Shards.

The Passives System

  • Passive have been changed into Shard Slots on gear.

  • Many of the bonuses previously offered by Passives can now be found in Shards.

  • Others can be found as Ascension Powers.

  • A select few item-specific passives in this update (those on the Terraria weapons) have turned into special LOCKED shards that come with the weapon and cannot be removed.

  • Some Passive effects were lost along the way (the flu hit really hard this year) and will possibly be added in at a later date.  Others were removed or reworked.

The Stat Allocation System

  • The previous Stat Allocation System is retired.

  • You will be able to find many similar options in the Ascension system and level them to the MAX.

Nightmare Difficulty

  • It’s gone to make room for better things.

My Inventory

  • Bags were consolidated to fit more items in fewer bags.

  • Converting to this system has been constructed to ensure that you will receive the same if not more item slots when you log in for the first time.

My Current Gear

  • Most Passives turned into Shard Slots; some weapons kept their unique passive as a locked Shard.

  • Relics are now used for Defense stats. Weapons & Armor are now used for Hero stats.

  • Medallions and Totems will retain their primary stats and gain a random secondary and tertiary stat. Rings will be rerolled into different Relics with different defense stats and will no longer exist in the game.

  • All Weapons & Armor have been rerolled with new hero stats.

  • Loot XP Boosters and Wyvern Tokens are now gone.

Terraria Weapons and Wayfarer

  • We didn't want players to immediately shortcut to owning Chaos V weapons with Souls when the update launched, so for now, you can only buy the Campaign and Chaos I versions of the Terraria weapons. We're still finalizing our plan on how players can acquire later Chaos versions of the Terraria weapons.

Guaranteed Drops

  • The only guarantee in Chaos is your doom!!!

  • We might re-visit these in the future.


  • Will remain in game as a fun way to earn Defender Medals.

  • For the time being they will only be at Campaign Hard difficulty.

    • Will these be updated? Only the shadow knows… and Jason because he sets the schedule.


  • Onslaught is finally taking the rest we’ve been talking about. In the future, we have plans for an Onslaught revamp or for a new system to take its place. It shall be reborn!


  • Daily Map Bonuses have been removed.

  • The My Heroes UI on the Pause Screen has been removed.

  • The Forge now links to the new Inventory interface.

  • Titles and Collections have been moved to the Pause Screen.

Known Issues

  • Keybinds may have been reset due to changes.

  • Controller is not supported on all user interfaces. We’re working on it!

  • Some Incursion weapons and their respective passives/Shards have been removed in this patch and will be re-introduced at a later date.

  • Volcano tower does not get increased attack speed from Eruption anymore.

  • Ramster Gambit Talent only gives 3 range per talent point (should be higher).

  • Tooltips display improperly in the Scavenger UI.

  • Frostbite Slow Talent displays as negative (harmful) on Inspect.

  • The inspect tooltip of the Frostbite Tower says the slow gets worse as you upgrade it more. This is visual only as the slow does get stronger as you upgrade.

  • Whenever the Cybork stuns a chain of EV nodes, only 1 node in the chain will have the stun VFX.

  • The arc that the arcane volley projectiles take to their target is a lot higher than intended.

  • If you’re having continued odd game problems, validate the integrity of the game cache via Steam.

  • PS4: The Equip/Unequip context icon doesn't update after you equip or unequip a pet in the Petrinarian UI.

  • PS4: Various navigation issues on the PS4 costume shop.

  • Magic and physical resists have been removed from the game, but they are still on pets. Please reroll them using your millions of saved pet reroll items.

  • Worm Scarf is the best shard in the game and is totally not broken right now.

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"Multiple Level 50 heroes in your Hero Deck will not grant additional XP."

Interesting. I assume this means they rebalanced how much XP we get? Otherwise leveling new heroes could take a while.

EDIT: Unless this change only affects Ascension XP and not regular XP.

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Some of the unique weapons are totally busted now... At least from what i have seen in the short time i had to test things out:
-Midas bow alt-fire animation comes through the ground and the attack itself does no damage;
-Lightning polearm alt-fire works for like a second and doesnt let you shoot while in the air;

Not sure if they were supposed to keep their passives or if those got turned into shards, but either way the weapons themselves certainly do not work as intended.

PS: Might have been a connection issue, seeing whats going on right now, but other stuff seemed to work fine at that time. Can anyone confirm?

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@๖ۣۜPhoenixX quote:

Its there anything really new?  Aka new abilities that would now be shards?

Yes.  When the game gets back in you'll probably see that info roll in but it's such a different game now.  Esepcially since each type of armor has it's own list of shard types.  Speed shards are boots, mana regen on helms, aggro on torso armor... etc.  Changes a lot in how you gear up and what kind of build you try to make.

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@Munin De Shyra quote:

Some of the unique weapons are totally busted now... At least from what i have seen in the short time i had to test things out:
-Midas bow alt-fire animation comes through the ground and the attack itself does no damage;
-Lightning polearm alt-fire works for like a second and doesnt let you shoot while in the air;

Not sure if they were supposed to keep their passives or if those got turned into shards, but either way the weapons themselves certainly do not work as intended.

PS: Might have been a connection issue, seeing whats going on right now, but other stuff seemed to work fine at that time. Can anyone confirm?

In the brief few minutes we were in the Tavern we noticed that the special dungeon weapons could be leveled up and gained more power after hitting max level.  Mage halberd could only spawn 1 ghost at first but at max level could spawn 5.

Outside that AWS died before we could start an actual combat round.  We were sooo close.

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been waiting for this update so happy its finally out
honestly the Lavamancer's Volcano tower is my fav. i myself have never used it before but i see it a lot in co-op and its awesome

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Look, Worm Scarf was the strongest accessory in Terraria so it's TOTALLY LOGICAL it's the strongest shard in DD2! B)

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So far with trap trigger range returning to the original size (possibly smaller) you have returned most of the Huntress defenses to undesirable. 

Trigger range is so small that you cannot guarantee the trap fires at all unless you plaster them all over the lane.  With the slow fire rate and spotty trigger it is no longer worth the defense points compared to defenses that target any enemy in range or auras.

Hope we can see the return of trap triggers to a more useful state asap.

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Less items being dropped, I usually get 2 grays a chaos game, I'd like to be able to change exp gains to single characters to level faster, and maybe experience bars for ascension levels as I can't tell where I am in a level. Loading screens freezing, taking to long or timing out. Inability to drag items to a bag icon,  which is really annoying because I've spent so many minutes organizing bags and it all gets thrown into the first bag it sees. I was so hyped for this update but it has let me down quite a bit. And please, please, just make it so pdts can hit multiple enemies, they are beyond useless in chaos mode

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Huntress explosive trap trigger range needs to be much bigger, like 10 times bigger.

Boost aura needs to be 10% bigger by default.

Cannons and ballistae need to fire 200% faster and hit for 200% more damage

Range shards would be good available in the adventuress shop.

Bling o Midas needs fixing so does Glaive of storms and sword of unholy fire.

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So problems I noticed. Alot of weapons that had unique passives, still show 1/2 slots filled as they should, but when moused over have no passives attached to them at all. Spear throwers can now throw spears through reflective barriers (Ev2), Cannonball and balista towers are both SUPER slow, and have SUPER short range, even with a speed sphere they are slow as hell. Some shards when opened after a match just say... Upgrade levels 99 bla bla, but have no actual affect, or anything like that. They are just simply broken. Not usable. Ogres can now get stuck walking back and forth in spawn on some maps. secondary fire on bling o' midas does NOT work. at all.

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Ascension system needs to be changed.  I do not like being forced to divide our ascension points into different trees every level.  either gives us more ascension points per level or just give us the ability to choose our point allocation as we see fit for our heroes.  

Also can the old lady that once sold skill spheres for medals start selling shards. 

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  • 2 weeks later...

I have only one question: Somebody in the universe can win the Chaos 5 (without cheats)? Especially after 19.3? Somebody? Anybody? Even in theory.

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