Playing with others

So im just going to say it . Don't join a game to get carried along and dont sit there watching videos if the group you joined is all ready to go. The kick process is broke so just do us a favor ask if you need a cruch to play with others and pay attention . I had a few who actually say hay can I do this or hay is this ok. Now thats cool.                           Now onto the player bashing in the forums is this needed? I get a lot of us are upset and want to be herd but if you look to destroy the person do it in the game. Put your build up and your dps and prove what you want to say or be done. Or don't ultimately this is just my opinion .

Ya i agree i had a few people not rdy up i didnt realy care the reason why but if u dont pay attention in a real game u would be kicked and loose the loot and on top of that people bash people on forms all the times just to make themselves feel better or to be a complete jurk i could imagin what fireworks fly if we had a world chat in the game i remember on one game they had no rules to world chat sead something about relegion they went at it for abou 24 hours like straigh dogs which was funny but realy disapointing

It's crazy the amount of noobs playing nm4 now I hate the new menu I put my games on ip750 but I must waste ur gold to upgrade that high

@savagebeastmam quote:

It's crazy the amount of noobs playing nm4 now I hate the new menu I put my games on ip750 but I must waste ur gold to upgrade that high

This...I don't understand players like you who put the ipwr requirement so high on a public match? You trying to show off or limit the people who join you? If it's the former, then you are a jerk. If it's the latter, then why not make private games?

Quality builders/players do not equate to high ipwr on characters. I never went past 26 out of 45 for infusing my gear (the "45" depends on ipwr) because I saw it as pointless. My gear could be "rerolled" after any update & I could honestly never find perfect pieces (perfect in my eyes, at least). Could I still solo any map in the game on nightmare 4 with ~730 ipwr builders? Yeah, and then some. I can carry people as well, no big deal (got to round 137 on a public onslaught a few weeks back with only my builders).

If you want to find quality players who can build maps well, then there are more efficient ways to find those guys. Go to the LFG section of the forums & check them out or make your own post. There's also a similar feature on PS4's where you can join communities & find other people playing this game.

It's frustrating for those of us who are able to handle the content & are looking for good players, but ultimately can't show you we know our stuff because you lock us out of an opportunity to show you.

@firesingplay quote:

Ya i agree i had a few people not rdy up i didnt realy care the reason why but if u dont pay attention in a real game u would be kicked and loose the loot and on top of that people bash people on forms all the times just to make themselves feel better or to be a complete jurk i could imagin what fireworks fly if we had a world chat in the game i remember on one game they had no rules to world chat sead something about relegion they went at it for abou 24 hours like straigh dogs which was funny but realy disapointing

Holy guacamole, man! I get that English may not be a first language for many of us folk out there, but there's only so much running on a guy can take. 

@Madmanblazing quote:

@savagebeastmam quote:

It's crazy the amount of noobs playing nm4 now I hate the new menu I put my games on ip750 but I must waste ur gold to upgrade that high

This...I don't understand players like you who put the ipwr requirement so high on a public match? You trying to show off or limit the people who join you? If it's the former, then you are a jerk. If it's the latter, then why not make private games?

Quality builders/players do not equate to high ipwr on characters. I never went past 26 out of 45 for infusing my gear (the "45" depends on ipwr) because I saw it as pointless. My gear could be "rerolled" after any update & I could honestly never find perfect pieces (perfect in my eyes, at least). Could I still solo any map in the game on nightmare 4 with ~730 ipwr builders? Yeah, and then some. I can carry people as well, no big deal (got to round 137 on a public onslaught a few weeks back with only my builders).

If you want to find quality players who can build maps well, then there are more efficient ways to find those guys. Go to the LFG section of the forums & check them out or make your own post. There's also a similar feature on PS4's where you can join communities & find other people playing this game.

It's frustrating for those of us who are able to handle the content & are looking for good players, but ultimately can't show you we know our stuff because you lock us out of an opportunity to show you.

@firesingplay quote:

Ya i agree i had a few people not rdy up i didnt realy care the reason why but if u dont pay attention in a real game u would be kicked and loose the loot and on top of that people bash people on forms all the times just to make themselves feel better or to be a complete jurk i could imagin what fireworks fly if we had a world chat in the game i remember on one game they had no rules to world chat sead something about relegion they went at it for abou 24 hours like straigh dogs which was funny but realy disapointing

Holy guacamole, man! I get that English may not be a first language for many of us folk out there, but there's only so much running on a guy can take. 

Again you try and make sure your right and you end it by pokeing fun at someone . Great way to make a point. You should really try not trolling for insults or trying to make sure you get the last word. This thread was to tell people about one thing and you make it about you and your greatness . I dont get you and Don't want to Please enjoy the thread trolling and have a great night. Oh and if someone is going to comment you should make sure your ready for this guy.

[[126905,users]], I'm not trolling. These are my real opinions on people who make public matches with a requirement being 750 ipwr & people who post stuff without proofreading what they wrote. A troll would say stuff to elicit a reaction from the community (usually a negative one) & grab everyone's attention just to make themselves feel good. If English isn't someone's native tongue, then that's okay (the world is a very big place). But when it gets to the point that you have to read & reread what someone wrote just to understand what they're trying to say (& then still can't quite get what they meant), I lose my marbles. It's like someone put their "stream of consciousness" instead of making sure what they had to say would come across when someone else read what they wrote.

I'm sorry if that makes me a bad person, but it's who I am.

@Madmanblazing quote:

Turiangel2014, I'm not trolling. These are my real opinions on people who make public matches with a requirement being 750 ipwr & people who post stuff without proofreading what they wrote. A troll would say stuff to elicit a reaction from the community (usually a negative one) & grab everyone's attention just to make themselves feel good. If English isn't someone's native tongue, then that's okay (the world is a very big place). But when it gets to the point that you have to read & reread what someone wrote just to understand what they're trying to say (& then still can't quite get what they meant), I lose my marbles. It's like someone put their "stream of consciousness" instead of making sure what they had to say would come across when someone else read what they wrote.

I'm sorry if that makes me a bad person, but it's who I am.

This is what I was talking about your always going after the last word and defamating a persons character either by the defense and exasterbation of a thread or the way we decide to talk. There are many trolls and you dont like that i called you out on this issue. Your always hurrasing me or a few other in any way you can and its entertainment for me because you for some reason dont get that no one on here values your opinion on this subject. Could be that they dont want to deal with a grown man who trolls.  Lol I can read and understand what he was saying so maby you should just shut the *** up. Its time you grew up and stop being a socially akward ***. Hmm so I had to say it but unless Your going to respect other for who they are then your the problem. 

Well, all I gotta say is 3 things:

1 - If the builder doesn't ready up, DO NOT ready up -> Mainly for you, the bastille players who use the bloody time as an excuse to ready up as soon as it gets to 550 secs (since is where this happens more often). Some of us feel like like raging and slap you, while others just straight up leave to a private lobby, especially when the answer after the "why did you ready up already" question is "because time" or "you can finish building in 80 or 40 seconds untill the round begins". Do not tell us if we can or cannot build in 80 or 40 seconds. You don't know what we're building to begin with.

I'll never say this enough times on this matter: If the guy building isn't stuttering or thinking twice where he should place towers, assume he knows what he's doing - because if he doesn't, he's the one who'll look bad in the picture anyways (if this even matters to anyone);

2 - If there's a builder in the room who said he could build when the host says he can't and you didn't come forth saying you could build too (some people have to build so many times now since everyone is in nm4 now that it gets really boring, so don't push it), just give him the mana and don't try putting a random tower in the middle of nowhere just to prove you also could;

3 - If somebody tells you that leveling a certain tower is useless, PLEASE LISTEN TO THE GUY AND DO NOT LEVEL IT. Doesn't matter much when some people have good towers, but you better be sure it does matter on their patience.

PS: For those who've done it, this is like working in retail. All it takes is 1 client to ruin your day. Except here, we can pretty much tell you to f*ck off by leaving and doing the map by ourselves without dealing with your sh*t.

If you join a public lobby, please refrain to do those 3 things, as they're all avoidable by doing 2 simple steps:

1 - Press Esc and see the position of the builder in the list. Ready up when he does and not before;

2 - Drop the mana to someone else if you don't know what to level up. Or you can always ask, but since it's a public lobby, I'm assuming nobody is going to say anything else besides an occasional "hi".

Thank you.

@Turiangel2014 quote:

@Madmanblazing quote:

Turiangel2014, I'm not trolling. These are my real opinions on people who make public matches with a requirement being 750 ipwr & people who post stuff without proofreading what they wrote. A troll would say stuff to elicit a reaction from the community (usually a negative one) & grab everyone's attention just to make themselves feel good. If English isn't someone's native tongue, then that's okay (the world is a very big place). But when it gets to the point that you have to read & reread what someone wrote just to understand what they're trying to say (& then still can't quite get what they meant), I lose my marbles. It's like someone put their "stream of consciousness" instead of making sure what they had to say would come across when someone else read what they wrote.

I'm sorry if that makes me a bad person, but it's who I am.

This is what I was talking about your always going after the last word and defamating a persons character either by the defense and exasterbation of a thread or the way we decide to talk. There are many trolls and you dont like that i called you out on this issue. Your always hurrasing me or a few other in any way you can and its entertainment for me because you for some reason dont get that no one on here values your opinion on this subject. Could be that they dont want to deal with a grown man who trolls.  Lol I can read and understand what he was saying so maby you should just shut the *** up. Its time you grew up and stop being a socially akward ***. Hmm so I had to say it but unless Your going to respect other for who they are then your the problem. 

I give up. You win. Congratulations! I'm a troll. Always have been. Please, EVERYONE, don't take ANYTHING I say as an opinion or comment on a thread or topic. I'm not trying to make a discussion or post a rebuttal to what someone else has stated. I'm simply here to troll by making fun of English & grammar mistakes so I can feel better for having been lucky to be in the US education system (I'm such an elitist, I can't help it :-/). You can literally look at EVERY previous post I've made & see they were ALL meant, in some way, to promote my jerk ways & make everyone else feel inferior to my greatness.

...that is all...why do I even bother...

@Madmanblazing quote:

@Turiangel2014 quote:

@Madmanblazing quote:

Turiangel2014, I'm not trolling. These are my real opinions on people who make public matches with a requirement being 750 ipwr & people who post stuff without proofreading what they wrote. A troll would say stuff to elicit a reaction from the community (usually a negative one) & grab everyone's attention just to make themselves feel good. If English isn't someone's native tongue, then that's okay (the world is a very big place). But when it gets to the point that you have to read & reread what someone wrote just to understand what they're trying to say (& then still can't quite get what they meant), I lose my marbles. It's like someone put their "stream of consciousness" instead of making sure what they had to say would come across when someone else read what they wrote.

I'm sorry if that makes me a bad person, but it's who I am.

This is what I was talking about your always going after the last word and defamating a persons character either by the defense and exasterbation of a thread or the way we decide to talk. There are many trolls and you dont like that i called you out on this issue. Your always hurrasing me or a few other in any way you can and its entertainment for me because you for some reason dont get that no one on here values your opinion on this subject. Could be that they dont want to deal with a grown man who trolls.  Lol I can read and understand what he was saying so maby you should just shut the *** up. Its time you grew up and stop being a socially akward ***. Hmm so I had to say it but unless Your going to respect other for who they are then your the problem. 

I give up. You win. Congratulations! I'm a troll. Always have been. Please, EVERYONE, don't take ANYTHING I say as an opinion or comment on a thread or topic. I'm not trying to make a discussion or post a rebuttal to what someone else has stated. I'm simply here to troll by making fun of English & grammar mistakes so I can feel better for having been lucky to be in the US education system (I'm such an elitist, I can't help it :-/). You can literally look at EVERY previous post I've made & see they were ALL meant, in some way, to promote my jerk ways & make everyone else feel inferior to my greatness.

...that is all...why do I even bother...

Lol keep proveing me right it helps you image as a person. This is my last response to you I will not feed your incessant thirst for attention. Please if your going to post in a thread I start dont poke fun at people for there faults it isn't a nice adult thing to do. Theres no need for you to go threw and correct what others are saying. You should develop basic human kindness skills you or I have no clue weather they are English or disabled in some way. I have said so much to try and reach you but it is a loss. 

@Turiangel2014 quote:

@Madmanblazing quote:

Turiangel2014, I'm not trolling. These are my real opinions on people who make public matches with a requirement being 750 ipwr & people who post stuff without proofreading what they wrote. A troll would say stuff to elicit a reaction from the community (usually a negative one) & grab everyone's attention just to make themselves feel good. If English isn't someone's native tongue, then that's okay (the world is a very big place). But when it gets to the point that you have to read & reread what someone wrote just to understand what they're trying to say (& then still can't quite get what they meant), I lose my marbles. It's like someone put their "stream of consciousness" instead of making sure what they had to say would come across when someone else read what they wrote.

I'm sorry if that makes me a bad person, but it's who I am.

This is what I was talking about your always going after the last word and defamating a persons character either by the defense and exasterbation of a thread or the way we decide to talk. There are many trolls and you dont like that i called you out on this issue. Your always hurrasing me or a few other in any way you can and its entertainment for me because you for some reason dont get that no one on here values your opinion on this subject. Could be that they dont want to deal with a grown man who trolls.  Lol I can read and understand what he was saying so maby you should just shut the *** up. Its time you grew up and stop being a socially akward ***. Hmm so I had to say it but unless Your going to respect other for who they are then your the problem. 

You do realize you just did everything you're accusing him of doing.   In addition to that, you're driving your own post off topic. 

Back to the original subject, there will always be toxic players in any game.   I personally play private games most of the time because the majority of people join with only a geared Dps character and nothing else. 

@Rebel Gnome quote:

Well, all I gotta say is 3 things:

1 - If the builder doesn't ready up, DO NOT ready up -> Mainly for you, the bastille players who use the bloody time as an excuse to ready up as soon as it gets to 550 secs (since is where this happens more often). Some of us feel like like raging and slap you, while others just straight up leave to a private lobby, especially when the answer after the "why did you ready up already" question is "because time" or "you can finish building in 80 or 40 seconds untill the round begins". Do not tell us if we can or cannot build in 80 or 40 seconds. You don't know what we're building to begin with.

I'll never say this enough times on this matter: If the guy building isn't stuttering or thinking twice where he should place towers, assume he knows what he's doing - because if he doesn't, he's the one who'll look bad in the picture anyways (if this even matters to anyone);

2 - If there's a builder in the room who said he could build when the host says he can't and you didn't come forth saying you could build too (some people have to build so many times now since everyone is in nm4 now that it gets really boring, so don't push it), just give him the mana and don't try putting a random tower in the middle of nowhere just to prove you also could;

3 - If somebody tells you that leveling a certain tower is useless, PLEASE LISTEN TO THE GUY AND DO NOT LEVEL IT. Doesn't matter much when some people have good towers, but you better be sure it does matter on their patience.

PS: For those who've done it, this is like working in retail. All it takes is 1 client to ruin your day. Except here, we can pretty much tell you to f*ck off by leaving and doing the map by ourselves without dealing with your sh*t.

If you join a public lobby, please refrain to do those 3 things, as they're all avoidable by doing 2 simple steps:

1 - Press Esc and see the position of the builder in the list. Ready up when he does and not before;

2 - Drop the mana to someone else if you don't know what to level up. Or you can always ask, but since it's a public lobby, I'm assuming nobody is going to say anything else besides an occasional "hi".

Thank you.

This should go into the code of ethics in DD2. If only ppl could do this

@gotrunks712 quote:

Back to the original subject, there will always be toxic players in any game. I personally play private games most of the time because the majority of people join with only a geared Dps character and nothing else. 

I'm just not a fan of people asking for "help," when what they really want is to be carried. I'm fine with carrying, it's just I would like to know ahead of time what I can expect when people say "help."

However, I can't & wont think the solution is to play private games. I can't come up with one, but there has to be a better system to make public games & keep the ability to easily remove folks you don't want or ones that aren't helping...

@Madmanblazing quote:

@gotrunks712 quote:

Back to the original subject, there will always be toxic players in any game. I personally play private games most of the time because the majority of people join with only a geared Dps character and nothing else. 

I'm just not a fan of people asking for "help," when what they really want is to be carried. I'm fine with carrying, it's just I would like to know ahead of time what I can expect when people say "help."

However, I can't & wont think the solution is to play private games. I can't come up with one, but there has to be a better system to make public games & keep the ability to easily remove folks you don't want or ones that aren't helping...

The last development stream did include a discussion on host having the ability to kick from their own games.   No ETA, but that would solve the problem.   I agree as well.   If I know I'm carrying someone upfront, I'm fine with it.   I just hate queuing for end game challenges only to have 3 other people who stand around until a builder joins. 

@gotrunks712 quote:

@Turiangel2014 quote:

@Madmanblazing quote:

Turiangel2014, I'm not trolling. These are my real opinions on people who make public matches with a requirement being 750 ipwr & people who post stuff without proofreading what they wrote. A troll would say stuff to elicit a reaction from the community (usually a negative one) & grab everyone's attention just to make themselves feel good. If English isn't someone's native tongue, then that's okay (the world is a very big place). But when it gets to the point that you have to read & reread what someone wrote just to understand what they're trying to say (& then still can't quite get what they meant), I lose my marbles. It's like someone put their "stream of consciousness" instead of making sure what they had to say would come across when someone else read what they wrote.

I'm sorry if that makes me a bad person, but it's who I am.

This is what I was talking about your always going after the last word and defamating a persons character either by the defense and exasterbation of a thread or the way we decide to talk. There are many trolls and you dont like that i called you out on this issue. Your always hurrasing me or a few other in any way you can and its entertainment for me because you for some reason dont get that no one on here values your opinion on this subject. Could be that they dont want to deal with a grown man who trolls.  Lol I can read and understand what he was saying so maby you should just shut the *** up. Its time you grew up and stop being a socially akward ***. Hmm so I had to say it but unless Your going to respect other for who they are then your the problem. 

You do realize you just did everything you're accusing him of doing.   In addition to that, you're driving your own post off topic. 

Back to the original subject, there will always be toxic players in any game.   I personally play private games most of the time because the majority of people join with only a geared Dps character and nothing else. 

Yes i did and i pointed it out but i also stated I thought that I would no longer reply to him. 

@Big Bad Baz quote:

@Rebel Gnome quote:

Well, all I gotta say is 3 things:

1 - If the builder doesn't ready up, DO NOT ready up -> Mainly for you, the bastille players who use the bloody time as an excuse to ready up as soon as it gets to 550 secs (since is where this happens more often). Some of us feel like like raging and slap you, while others just straight up leave to a private lobby, especially when the answer after the "why did you ready up already" question is "because time" or "you can finish building in 80 or 40 seconds untill the round begins". Do not tell us if we can or cannot build in 80 or 40 seconds. You don't know what we're building to begin with.

I'll never say this enough times on this matter: If the guy building isn't stuttering or thinking twice where he should place towers, assume he knows what he's doing - because if he doesn't, he's the one who'll look bad in the picture anyways (if this even matters to anyone);

2 - If there's a builder in the room who said he could build when the host says he can't and you didn't come forth saying you could build too (some people have to build so many times now since everyone is in nm4 now that it gets really boring, so don't push it), just give him the mana and don't try putting a random tower in the middle of nowhere just to prove you also could;

3 - If somebody tells you that leveling a certain tower is useless, PLEASE LISTEN TO THE GUY AND DO NOT LEVEL IT. Doesn't matter much when some people have good towers, but you better be sure it does matter on their patience.

PS: For those who've done it, this is like working in retail. All it takes is 1 client to ruin your day. Except here, we can pretty much tell you to f*ck off by leaving and doing the map by ourselves without dealing with your sh*t.

If you join a public lobby, please refrain to do those 3 things, as they're all avoidable by doing 2 simple steps:

1 - Press Esc and see the position of the builder in the list. Ready up when he does and not before;

2 - Drop the mana to someone else if you don't know what to level up. Or you can always ask, but since it's a public lobby, I'm assuming nobody is going to say anything else besides an occasional "hi".

Thank you.

This should go into the code of ethics in DD2. If only ppl could do this

Umm this is under ps4 thread lol cant press esape button but yes I agree with your statement .

I have a tendency to overlook if it's in the PC or PS4 thread, my bad.

I never saw what the big issue with this was. I've let n00bs in my games to be carried since dd1 both on ps3 and PC. I agree, it's very frustrating when you're actually trying to beat something but that's what private games are for. 

If the kicking function is fixed to reflect that of previous versions, than the join-insta kick will begin all over again and then people will become reluctant to join higher matches. (i.e kick rates for Aquanos and that damn Djinn map...can't remember the name).

I love the company and will always let folks in a public match because....I made it public for a reason.