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CD nightmare hardcore or not for epic loot?

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Was just wondering if farming this map on hardcore will give me uber loot. I know every other map having it on hardcore is the way to go, but I heard a rumour that having CD on hardcore or not makes no difference to reward quality.

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It does make a difference in reward quality. HC does has higher stat limits on rewards than Non-HC. Non-HC rewards have lower stats but I think it is consistently better about giving me something usable. It doesnt give me as many low ups on ecannons that HC mode has.

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I see. So the rumour I heard must have gone along the lines of more consistent usable items. I'm only after the best so looks like HC all the way. Thanks for input.

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Insane on CD does not give you the same reward though. However tinkers lab definitely gives better blasters on insane than NM

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Stay away from CD: it is a buggy, long and hard map, whose rewards have been all superseded by the ones in later maps. Besides unlocking the monk Super Legendary custom, I see no reason to do CD these days.

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The mage mana bomb bug isn't so bad if you don't use jester. Ive personally found solo play with jester fine, but with 2 or more people using a jester the mana bomb bug can occur more frequently due to more mage's being spawned. I think as long as only one person uses a jester it should be fine. Ive been farming this map with Middo, and our completion time for this map is around the 24-25 minute mark. Ive read a few others can hit as low as 19 minutes. AS for the rewards....they are just sexy as hell, and an ultimate++ can certainly hold its own.

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I agree. I like the style of the ecannon and esword. You just need ult++ versions to really compete practically and those are very few and far between.

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well lets add some stats for non hc runs ( ive done 10 so far )

list of e-swords

^'s / Quality ( ult=u sup=s trans=t myth=m )

131 / t
159 / m
183 / t
224 / m
225 / u
244 / m
256 / s
261 / u
324 / u
349 / u

average ups = 235.6

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If you want to test the loot without going through much of the hassle of a full CD run, just run Old One Practice. You may have already done that.

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You also get Eternian weapons on non HC?!? I've thought they are just Crystal weapons (the wiki also says that)

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just did another non hc run with a friend he got a 400^ e-spear

idk dont think hc vs non hc makes a huge difference


It makes a difference in how high the base damage and stats can spawn with. As far as ups I see better ups on NonHC more consistently.

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